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Ulmus

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Fiscal Cliff vote concerns
« on: January 01, 2013, 10:03:21 PM »
One third of Republicans votes with the Democrats on teh Fiscal Cliff bill.

How many of them will side with the Democrats on any AWB/Gun limits/Firearm Restrictions?

Write.  Write. Write!

Keep the pressure up.

MikeBjerum

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Re: Fiscal Cliff vote concerns
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 10:23:07 PM »
Has anybody heard any details?  I haven't heard what the details are, and how we have time to work out the spending cuts.  I would rather see us struggle for a few weeks than to fall for what Pres. Reagan got suckered into - Give us these tax increases and we will do the spending cuts later.  We all know how that worked out  >:(

Maybe my tinfoil is rusting, but here is what I fear:

1.  We have given him revenue (tax increase);
2.  Increased his line of credit (new credit card from China);
3.  Limited spending cuts (he wants a 15% increase and he will cut instead and only take a 13.5% increase);
4.  When we get a month down the road to negotiate spending cuts all of our financial demands will be tied to infringements on the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff vote concerns
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 12:55:09 AM »
Very broad stroke: increases taxes by $600 billion over ten years and delays spending cuts for two months.

Details here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/01/details-tentative-deal-that-would-avert-fiscal-crisis/

The problems with this "deal" are obvious.  For the next two months, however, Washington may be too busy negotiating the spending cuts to focus on a gun control debate.  Not only the spending cuts but also the battle over raising the debt limit again and a budget resolution.  I listened to BHO's presser after the vote and toward the end he listed all of the things he'll be focusing on this term... he listed "protecting our children from gun violence" last.  I don't know how significant that is but it could be important.  Time will work in our favor here.  The more time that passes before major arguments begin over Feinstein's bill the better it should be for us.  Emotions will have normalized somewhat and the impulse to do something - even if it's wrong - will have subsided a little.  It will also give the firearms industry and pro-2A organizations more time to pull together a detailed plan for fighting back.


 

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