call congress to the SHOT show

[nosimij]

I have been kept up nights working on a letter to my congressman and seniors.  I got up at 05:00 this morning because I could not put it off any longer.  As I drafted my letter it became not a letter by a shooter but as a tax payer.  I did some quick math(see below).  Please do not lynch me for these numbers but I wanted a MINIMUM, as had been stated Americans are speaking with their wallets here.

In addition to that I was making the points about the number of jobs that would be LOST if this kind of legislation came through.  While making that point I added the phrase"I wish I was in a position to invite you to the upcoming Shooting Hunting and Outdoor Trade (S.H.O.T.) show in Las Vegas Jan 15-18 then you could tour the show and see how many American companies would be impacted by this kind of legislation." .  If there is someone here who is in a position to make these invites it seams like a good idea to me.  It is probably too late but boy it looks like a good idea to me. 

Mr. Bane any pull here?

My wife just stopped in to ask me to picture Dianne Feinstein on the shot show floor? 


From my letter to congress. ( again I am sure that the average firearms purchase is will over $700 I felt I had to low ball.  Had I said $900 as that is the cost on an entry level AR it would be challenging as exaggerated this is obviously low)

This is evident by a 19 Percent increase in the number of back ground checks (19,592,303) in 2012.  This number represents the number of checks run not the number of firearms purchased, as multiple guns purchased at one time result in one check. It is reported that the manufacturers of AR style rifles are unable to keep up with the demand that is currently out there.  If we assume that the average gun sale totaled $400, $200 less than the cost of a low end AR style rifle in my area of Ohio, that would be at least 19,592,303 X $400 = $7,836,921,200 paid out for firearms in 2012.  At a 5% sales tax rate that would be $391,846,060 added into State coffers

[crusader rabbit]

Good approach.  But talking logic to the illogical may be pissing in the wind.

Another thing, back ground should be background.  When used in this context, it is one word.  Back ground would be something like Uncle Jake's north 40.

FWIW

Crusader

[nosimij]

Thanks for the grammar correction Crusader I am an engineer not an English teacher.

[Magoo541]

I heard something interesting lately and I'm not sure where-MB, Tom, Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity, who knows.  BUT the point is logic will not work, numbers are ineffective, on our opponents because they are driven by emotion.

The way to change minds is to sell it-they want to know what is in it for them or what can we offer (or threaten them with) to change their position.  WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH PEOPLE OF PRINCIPLE!  So quit treating them as such, give them a reason to change their position and they will-IF it is better than what they have.

[tombogan03884]

I heard something interesting lately and I'm not sure where-MB, Tom, Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity, who knows.  BUT the point is logic will not work, numbers are ineffective, on our opponents because they are driven by emotion.

The way to change minds is to sell it-they want to know what is in it for them or what can we offer (or threaten them with) to change their position.  WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH PEOPLE OF PRINCIPLE!  So quit treating them as such, give them a reason to change their position and they will-IF it is better than what they have.

I have some numbers that will make them stop and think .
All military and LEO = about 1.5 million .
Gun owners, 100 million.
AR's sold since 1985 3.3 million.

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[fatbaldguy]

I have some numbers that will make them stop and think .
All military and LEO = about 1.5 million .
Gun owners, 100 million.
AR's sold since 1985 3.3 million.

We don't have heavy weapons though.  Also, many LEO and military personnel will refuse to obey unlawful orders.  Truly, a dirty civil war when you won't know who you can trust.  That is, if you are LEO and military.

[tombogan03884]

We don't have heavy weapons though.  Also, many LEO and military personnel will refuse to obey unlawful orders.  Truly, a dirty civil war when you won't know who you can trust.  That is, if you are LEO and military.

That doesn't mean anything, just like every other insurgency in recorded history, between raids on armory's, storage sites and manufacturers, and equipment supplied by deserters from the Federal forces we will be as well equipped as the Syrians, or the Taliban.They seem to be doing OK .
The Jews started Israel with a hell of a lot less.