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B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« on: January 16, 2013, 12:51:52 PM »
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    1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

    2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

    3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

    4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

    5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

    6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

    7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

    8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

    9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

    10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

    11. Nominate an ATF director.

    12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

    13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

    14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

    15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

    17. Release a letter to health-care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law-enforcement authorities.

    18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

    19. Develop model emergency-response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

    20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental-health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

    21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

    22. Commit to finalizing mental-health-parity regulations.

    23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 12:55:54 PM »
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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 01:33:21 PM »
I'm going to get flamed for this but I want you guys to notice something about the proposals...

Almost all of them "on paper" are things we, as a comunity, have said need to happen:
  Better mental health care, and reoprting so mentally unstable persons do not get access to firearms.
  A better system for conducting backgound checks, again so criminals can't get them.
  Better training for first responders in an emergency, along with more police in schools
  Enforcement of existing laws concerning stolen firearms
I'm not saying they are not going to be pushed to the limit and abused, just on the surface they are what  WE have asked for.
Now some go beyond what will really help, including 13-17, that are nothing more than ways to get the CDC to say guns are a health issue or to require "smart guns" or some other silly device that is not technologically feasable.

NO where in the 23 things listed do I read AWB or mag capacity limit, not that they won't try. 
When seconds mean the difference between life and death, the police will be minutes away.

You are either SOLVING the problem, or you ARE the problem.

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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 01:55:49 PM »
13 us the 'catch all' for gun control

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 02:15:56 PM »
13 us the 'catch all' for gun control

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

Correct, but unfortunately that is something else the gun community has asked for, better enforcement of existing laws, just how far they have pushed it.
When seconds mean the difference between life and death, the police will be minutes away.

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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 02:21:35 PM »
There are no fools in this forum. So let's be careful we don't assume the President is giving us what we asked for. The devil is in the details, not some descriptor sentence. The President knows that if he is to do some damage, it will have to occur through executive action and not via the lily-livered Congress. Pay attention to the fine print.
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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 06:39:58 PM »
I think that is what I'm getting at.  They know that if they word it similar to what we've asked for they can slide it through without out a fight.  Do they REALLY think we're that stupid?  (I know, yes they do.)
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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 06:53:12 PM »
He has put the 2A under the jurisdiction of Obamacare. Guns are now a healthcare issue.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies." (Groucho Marx)

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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 07:28:46 PM »
 14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.


The "Affordable Care Act may allow the questions, but it specifically prohibits keeping such records .
Read it for yourself here :

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/09/this-is-how-a-secret-gun-provision-made-its-way-into-obamacare-legislation/

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Re: B'Ho's 23 if you must read them
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 07:58:45 PM »
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.


The "Affordable Care Act may allow the questions, but it specifically prohibits keeping such records .
Read it for yourself here :

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/09/this-is-how-a-secret-gun-provision-made-its-way-into-obamacare-legislation/
    14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

How much of a stretch is it to think the term "gun nut" means you have a disease or mental defect that requires treatment and confiscation of your firearms?
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies." (Groucho Marx)

 

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