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Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« on: January 18, 2013, 09:47:04 AM »
You should see the pic of this witch :o

Representative Rosa L. DeLauro (D-CT) introduced HR 226 in the House of Representatives. What does the bill seek to do? I looks to amend the 1986 Internal Revenue code and allow a credit if taxpayers “surrender” their guns to the government. The Act is said to be cited as the “Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act.”

According to the text of the bill, the allowance of the credit is:

(1) In general.–In the case of an individual who surrenders a specified assault weapon to the United States or a State or local government (or political subdivision thereof) as part of a Federal, State, or local public safety program to reduce the number of privately owned weapons, on the election of the taxpayer there shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed by this chapter an amount equal to $2,000.
 (2) Year credit allowed.–The amount of the credit under paragraph (1) shall be allowed \1/2\ for the taxable year during which the assault weapon was so surrendered and \1/2\ in the next taxable year.

Notice the purpose is not to give a credit of $2000.00, which if that is the case, one could really make a good bit of money as you can get a Bushmaster for well under $1000, but rather it is to “reduce the number of privately owned weapons.”

The bill states that the weapons must lawfully be possesssed, that it is surrendered in writing, and there can only be one weapon surrendered per tax year. So what weapons does Rep. DeLauro consider to be “assault” weapons? The list is very similar to Senator Diane Feinstein’s list. According to the bill “the term ‘specified assault weapon’ means any of the following:

(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates
 thereof:
“(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR,
“(ii) AR-10,
“(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR,
“(iv) AR70,
“(v) Calico Liberty,
“(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
“(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC,
“(viii) Hi-Point Carbine,
“(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1,
“(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle,
“(xi) M1 Carbine,
“(xii) Saiga,
“(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800,
“(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine,
“(xv) SLG 95,
“(xvi) SLR 95 or 96,
“(xvii) Steyr AUG,
“(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14,
“(xix) Tavor,
“(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando, or
“(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).
“(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:
“(i) Calico M-110,
“(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3,
“(iii) Olympic Arms OA,
“(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, or
“(v) Uzi.
“(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:
“(i) Armscor 30 BG,
“(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
“(iii) Striker 12, or
“(iv) Streetsweeper.
“(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has–
 “(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
“(ii) a threaded barrel,
“(iii) a pistol grip,
“(iv) a forward grip, or
“(v) a barrel shroud.
“(E)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
“(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
“(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has–
 “(i) a second pistol grip,
“(ii) a threaded barrel,
“(iii) a barrel shroud, or
“(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol
 grip.
“(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
“(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has–
 “(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
“(ii) a pistol grip,
“(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine, or
“(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.
“(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
“(J) A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A) through
 (I) or (L).
“(K) A conversion kit.
“(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.
“(2) Related definitions.–
 “(A) Barrel shroud.–The term `barrel shroud’ means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel, but does not include a slide that encloses the barrel, and does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel.
“(B) Conversion kit.–The term `conversion kit’ means any part or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a firearm into a semiautomatic assault weapon, and any combination of parts from which a semiautomatic assault weapon can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.
“(C) Detachable magazine.–The term `detachable magazine’ means an ammunition feeding device that can readily be inserted into a firearm.
“(D) Fixed magazine.–The term `fixed magazine’ means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm.
“(E) Folding or telescoping stock.–The term `folding or telescoping stock’ means a stock that folds, telescopes, or otherwise operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of a firearm.
“(F) Forward grip.–The term `forward grip’ means a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.
“(G) Pistol grip.–The term `pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.
“(H) Threaded barrel.–The term `threaded barrel’ means a feature or characteristic that is designed in such a manner to allow for the attachment of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(a)).


Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/01/forfeit-your-guns-bill-introduced-in-house-of-representatives/#ixzz2ILHgd8HK
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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 10:03:45 AM »
Holly $hit! Hopefully  it will be dead on arrival. :- >:(

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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 03:09:17 PM »
On a personal note, please accept my deep gratitude for not including a picture of Rosa.

There is not enough eye bleach in the entire state of Florida.

Crusader

PS,

This biatch's mind must be uglier than her face to come up with this much absolute crap.
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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 03:58:25 PM »
On a personal note, please accept my deep gratitude for not including a picture of Rosa.

There is not enough eye bleach in the entire state of Florida.


Crusader

PS,

This biatch's mind must be uglier than her face to come up with this much absolute crap.

So ugly that her rectum served eviction papers to her head.   ;)
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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 04:36:15 PM »
So that's how they get AR pistols.   Well I still contend my lower receiver is just for my cross bow.


(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has–
 “(i) a second pistol grip,
“(ii) a threaded barrel,
“(iii) a barrel shroud, or
“(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol
 grip.
Will work for ammo
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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2013, 12:26:50 AM »
Anybody ever stop to think how much ink and paper these tree huggers could save if they quit printing list and just stated what the mean ...

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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2013, 05:55:51 PM »
I wonder if her tyrannical bill would be enough to try her for treason, in a different time or political environment maybe?
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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 05:47:16 AM »
This bill is certainly bad legislation... and here is the THOMAS link: http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.113hr226.

The title of the 'Freedom Outpost' article is a little misleading.  This bill does not codify a forfeiture but rather it allows, at the election of the taxpayer, for a tax credit.  A reading of the entire text also shows that this bill, if enacted, would expire after two years.  This bill was referred to the House Ways and Means Committee - not the Judiciary Committee.  Any bill that would directly infringe on Second Amendment rights, or civil liberties in general, falls under the jurisdiction of the Judiciary Committee.


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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 09:01:00 AM »
This bill is certainly bad legislation... and here is the THOMAS link: http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.113hr226.

The title of the 'Freedom Outpost' article is a little misleading.  This bill does not codify a forfeiture but rather it allows, at the election of the taxpayer, for a tax credit.  A reading of the entire text also shows that this bill, if enacted, would expire after two years.  This bill was referred to the House Ways and Means Committee - not the Judiciary Committee.  Any bill that would directly infringe on Second Amendment rights, or civil liberties in general, falls under the jurisdiction of the Judiciary Committee.



You mean like the NFA ?
That was passed off as a revenue bill, but drastically infringed the 2ndA

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Re: Forfeit Your Guns Bill Introduced In House of Representatives
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 10:04:57 AM »
You mean like the NFA ?
That was passed off as a revenue bill, but drastically infringed the 2ndA

Yes, Sir, you are absolutely correct about the NFA.  This quote is from the ATF (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/):
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While the NFA was enacted by Congress as an exercise of its authority to tax, the NFA had an underlying purpose unrelated to revenue collection. As the legislative history of the law discloses, its underlying purpose was to curtail, if not prohibit, transactions in NFA firearms. Congress found these firearms to pose a significant crime problem because of their frequent use in crime, particularly the gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. The $200 making and transfer taxes on most NFA firearms were considered quite severe and adequate to carry out Congress’ purpose to discourage or eliminate transactions in these firearms. The $200 tax has not changed since 1934.

H.R.226 (113th) is different in two ways: (1) it doesn't impose a tax -  the gov't pays the citizen, and (2) it is voluntary - weapon surrender is not mandatory.

Please understand... I am NOT defending this bill.  I'm just attempting to understand its true scope.


 

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