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Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« on: February 12, 2013, 06:54:44 PM »
I was reading today's Examiner article by David Codrea and while the article topic has focus on racial aspects, there are several points made from a quoted blog article about lessons that can be garnered from the ongoing incident.

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“It is important, up front, to remind ourselves of what we don't know at this stage about Christopher Dorner's one-man guerrilla war against the LAPD,” Mike Vanderboegh of the Sipsey Street Irregulars blog wrote in a post today before the late-breaking developments. “He may be lying dead, frozen up in the mountains. He may be lying low in a hideaway in South Central, awaiting his next chance to strike.
It is this ‘ghost in the machine’ that has gripped the imaginations of the LAPD and motivated them to shoot up innocent newspaper delivery ladies and make other panicky moves that telegraph just how shaken they are by the fact that one of their "Only Ones" is doing this to them. The law enforcement bureaucracy likes to believe that they, personally, are untouchable. Dorner has proven the lie and it scares the bejeezus out of them.

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“One man -- ONE MAN -- has for almost a week frightened and tied up the law enforcement resources of an entire state (and I'm sure the Feds are making their contributions behind the scenes too),” Vanderboegh observed. “This is a cautionary tale for any citizen disarmament advocate who blithely assumes (as stupidly as the LAPD was last week) that the ‘authorities’ are up the challenges of the 4GW civil war that their appetites seem bent upon creating.

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“If the ghost in the LAPD machine teaches anything, it is that the resources of the modern surveillance police state are not even up to the challenge of one madman, let alone a determined, thinking minority,” Vanderboegh concluded.


http://www.examiner.com/article/ghost-dorner-provides-cautionary-tale-as-black-community-seeks-answers


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The Killer Ghost in the Machine. Dorner's one-man guerrilla war against the LAPD is a cautionary tale for citizen disarmament advocates.

The Los Angeles Police Department has been stretched to the limit after five days hunting for Christopher Dorner, America's most wanted man, as he seemingly vanishes into thin air.

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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-killer-ghost-in-machine-dorners-one.html
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 09:03:59 PM »
Apparently the lesson for Dorner was:  Darwin wins.

Sucker is believed to have been burned to death in the cabin where he was holding out.

On the up side, he did manage to shoot a reporter before they got him. 

Down side there is the reporter is expected to recover.

Lesson for future Dorners is:  Don't mess with the LAPD--they are the biggest gang in the neighborhood.

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 09:25:15 PM »
“He may be lying dead, frozen up in the mountains. He may be lying low in a hideaway in South Central, awaiting his next chance to strike."

Umm, actually, he was in a house on Club View Dr., across the street from the Command Post...

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 10:20:08 PM »
So what your saying is he was sitting nice and warm, watching the big shots come and go while every one else froze their butts off on the mountain ?
Good bad or indifferent, you have to love that.  ;D

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 10:36:36 PM »
So....Rambo had it all wrong?



DAMN.






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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 10:37:31 PM »
So what your saying is he was sitting nice and warm, watching the big shots come and go while every one else froze their butts off on the mountain ?
Good bad or indifferent, you have to love that.  ;D

Pretty much.  People are absolutely clueless about their own safety, as MB often says in his podcasts.  I live about 12 blocks from here and I've been on red alert the entire time.  Meanwhile, school was cancelled on Friday, and yet lots of parents allowed their kids to go snowboarding here, and the place was packed on Saturday!
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 10:44:53 PM »
With talk about a potential 'civil' (?) war in the future, I was kinda looking at it from the angle of the warning mentioned in the blog article.
Seeing what one man did to disrupt a state, a small group of determined patriots (say, the 3%) might have more of an advantage than initially thought, considering:

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One man -- ONE MAN -- has for almost a week frightened and tied up the law enforcement resources of an entire state (and I'm sure the Feds are making their contributions behind the scenes too),” Vanderboegh observed. “This is a cautionary tale for any citizen disarmament advocate who blithely assumes (as stupidly as the LAPD was last week) that the ‘authorities’ are up the challenges of the 4GW civil war that their appetites seem bent upon creating."
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 10:52:10 PM »
With talk about a potential 'civil' (?) war in the future, I was kinda looking at it from the angle of the warning mentioned in the blog article.
Seeing what one man did to disrupt a state, a small group of determined patriots (say, the 3%) might have more of an advantage than initially thought, considering:


Yes, they will have more of an advantage.  But unless it's all-out civil war/WROL, they will still likely wind up in the same untimely fate.
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 11:01:22 PM »
Yes, they will have more of an advantage.  But unless it's all-out civil war/WROL, they will still likely wind up in the same untimely fate.


Yep.... all or nothing..... Individuals or small groups will play out like Waco or Ruby Ridge.... where the small pocket of 'radical resistance' or 'domestic terrorist' is quelled.
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

"When it comes to the enemy, just because they ain't pullin' a trigger, doesn't mean they ain't totin' ammo for those that are."~PegLeg

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 03:26:54 AM »
my take away from this....

don't publish a ranting, rambling 31 page declaration of war manifesto against who or whatever your imagined enemy happens to be.

the lo-pro method of things would be something like Ted "The Unibomber" Kaczynski .

manifesto = "come at me, bro!" = dumb, dumb, dumb


 

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