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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2013, 07:24:17 AM »
I live about 12 blocks from here and I've been on red alert the entire time.  Meanwhile, school was cancelled on Friday, and yet lots of parents allowed their kids to go snowboarding here, and the place was packed on Saturday!

The cabin they showed burning on Fox News last night looked much more rural than the location shown in the photograph. It didn't look like there were even any roads around it???

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2013, 09:10:24 AM »
my take away from this....

don't publish a ranting, rambling 31 page declaration of war manifesto against who or whatever your imagined enemy happens to be.

the lo-pro method of things would be something like Ted "The Unibomber" Kaczynski .

manifesto = "come at me, bro!" = dumb, dumb, dumb





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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 09:23:25 AM »
The cabin they showed burning on Fox News last night looked much more rural than the location shown in the photograph. It didn't look like there were even any roads around it???

Dorner was killed in a different cabin.  He was holed up in this cabin here in town for a couple of days, literally across the street from the PD's Command Post, next to Bear Mountain Ski Resort.  On Sunday, the PD packed up and moved the command post to the Sheriff's Station a couple miles away.  That's when he had a chance to steal the car and drove down the mountain to Seven Oaks, about 10 miles away as the crow flies.
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 10:04:55 AM »
What Lessons are there?

Don't piss off the big black guy with military training ?

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 10:27:46 AM »
Dorner was killed in a different cabin.  He was holed up in this cabin here in town for a couple of days, literally across the street from the PD's Command Post, next to Bear Mountain Ski Resort.  On Sunday, the PD packed up and moved the command post to the Sheriff's Station a couple miles away.  That's when he had a chance to steal the car and drove down the mountain to Seven Oaks, about 10 miles away as the crow flies.

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 10:35:31 AM »
my take away from this....

don't publish a ranting, rambling 31 page declaration of war manifesto against who or whatever your imagined enemy happens to be.

I read his manifesto.  From it, there is no way he couldn't help himself.  It's clear he was a huge narcissist and a hot-head to boot.  Worst combination, especially for a cop.
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 10:40:07 AM »
I read his manifesto.  From it, there is no way he couldn't help himself.  It's clear he was a huge narcissist and a hot-head to boot.  Worst combination, especially for a cop.

I caught the same drift. He tried to set himself up as a black Serpico. It didn't pan out. Far too much "woe is me" crap. He took years to compile his entire non convincing load of silly foolishness. He should have moved to the Sudan. With his stupid mentality, he would have fit right in with those murdering idiots.

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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2013, 11:00:25 AM »
What I got is don't get stuck in a burning building surrounded by armed persons that are more than happy to shoot at you, and more importantly don't shoot at THEM first. ;D
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2013, 11:45:08 AM »
Yep.... all or nothing..... Individuals or small groups will play out like Waco or Ruby Ridge.... where the small pocket of 'radical resistance' or 'domestic terrorist' is quelled.

Not sure I agree with that. Just taking an example from the Afghans. They have managed to keep us mired down for 11 years. Not a huge force either. But by using guerrilla tactics they have held their own. Although, it doesn't appear that the same handcuffing ROE applies for U.S. Citizens.
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Re: Dorner: What Lessons are there?
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2013, 12:09:39 PM »
Not sure I agree with that. Just taking an example from the Afghans. They have managed to keep us mired down for 11 years. Not a huge force either. But by using guerrilla tactics they have held their own.

And by heavy munitions first supplied by us in the 80s and then by other Arab countries now.  Where would a local rebel get a case of RPGs or mortars?  Frankly, small arms only goes so far.
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