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Re: Obama: 57 States with 1 more to go ...?
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2008, 01:03:39 PM »
I love the quote … "The majority? The majority sir, is an ass."    Even though we will disagree … I still need to buy you a beer someday!  :)   

Man … that Mao quote reminds me of an experience I had with it when I was in college.  At the risk of hijacking my thread, there is some humor in this.  As well, it goes to your comment about “standing up”. 

It was in 1979 that I had an "encounter" with some Iranians who came to my school to protest police efforts that stopped a riot about the Shah's family living in Beverly Hills.  They had their black and red posters loaded with Maoist and Islamic slogans.  I was probably a little hung over (ok, a lot hung over) when this Iranian woman shoved a picture in my face of a LAPD or possibly LA County Sheriff’s car driving by a couple of “diving” Iranian rioters.  She said, “Look at this police brutality!” 

I kept walking not paying much attention.  We always had some nut-job trying to sell your intellect something on campus and I had seen that picture before on the news.  But after four or five steps something made me turn around. 

I went back to her and gently asked if I could see that picture again.  She started going off with her anti-America, anti-Shah, Islamo-bullshit and I said “No.”   She stopped, looked at me kind of like a dog would when they turn their head to the side after you give them a command.  But before she could say “woof”, I said, “No, that’s not police brutality.  You see, if I were that cop (pointing at the picture), I would have got out of my car and it would have been ‘stick-time’ … that’s where I would put my nightstick up that dumb son of a bitch’s ass … sideways.  Now that’s police brutality, bitch”. 

Being at a somewhat liberal university in Southern Cal I don’t think she really expected that.  And I wasn’t done with her yet either.  I asked her if they “stayed up all night to figure out those cute slogans?”  Her pride swelled past the shock of what I just told her and she was quick to reply that they were their slogans and that they “would march down the streets of Long Beach to prove it”.  I pulled my sunglasses down so she could see my blue eyes and said, “That’s really funny, Mao said the same thing in 1949. By the way, if you are serious about this, when you come down my street I have a surprise for you.”  By now, there were a couple of scrawny Iranian dudes that came up to stand by her.  These guys were dressed like Martin & Ackroyd in the SNL skit about the “wild and crazy guys” that were “looking for foxes”.  I winked at them and walked away. 

Fun part was yet to come.  I walked in to what we called the “Greek Room” where the folks in fraternities and sororities hang out.  Just sat down to talk to some friends about this drop dead gorgeous Delta Gamma that I wanted to take out when the Iranians got on a PA system outside and started to talk about their Islamo-bullshit and how the Shah’s family was living large in BH because of the “American swine Jimmy Carter”. They went on with some “planted” questions which their moderator had canned answers for.  Then they made a mistake … they asked if anyone wanted to ask a question. One of my friends looked at me and chided, “Hey RonJohn, how much more of this shit are you going to take?”  Not much.  I walked outside and right up to the mic.  There were a few objections at first but after I said “You asked for questions, I have one … why, are you afraid I might ask a question that you haven’t rehearsed for?”  I was allowed to have the mic for one question. 

Asking a question was not exactly what I had in mind.  I got up and begin to tell them that they blame everyone else for their “shithole existence” and it’s “time to play well with others”.  About 75% or more of the crowd cheered.  Their moderator was a little upset so he demanded in his best Farsi/English accent that I ask a question or get off the mic.  Fair enough so I asked, “Do you think its right to come here to the USA on student-guest visas and tear up our neighborhoods so that MY tax dollars have to fix your mess?  Screw you.  Why don’t you clean up your own mess or better yet, why don’t you all just GO HOME?!?” Thought about adding to this because I was starting to have fun but they killed the mic on me. 

I stepped off the podium and turned to the moderator/leader and said, “Here’s another question for you, why don’t you go f..k yourself?”  Feeling pretty good about myself I started to walk away.  Out of the blue, this dickwad turns the mic back on and says that I am “a CIA plant”.  The small, pro-Iranian crowd started to chatter but they were very outnumbered and now being heckled and interrupted by a couple dozen guys from my fraternity and a few others that had started chanting, “USA all the way”.  When they heard this guy say that I was a CIA plant, they alternated with “CIA all the way”.  With the crowd against them, the Iranian protest quickly ended.  Pretty comical for a typical hung over day in college.   

I get home and my dad who had recently retired from LBPD asked how school was?  Before I could answer, he says, “They got a lot of good pictures of you at school today.”  One of his buddies from the PD called and said that they and the FBI were there taking pictures of everyone at this protest.  When my dad’s friend recognized me, he called to tell my dad about it.  He starts to laugh and says, “CIA plant?  Yeah right!”  Next day, front page of the school paper there was a big ‘ol picture of me at the mic pointing my finger at the crowd.  Caption was “student Ron Johnson, leading counter demonstration”. A smaller secondary picture was of me in the face of one of the Iranians and they called me a “heckler” which I thought was funny.  Guess that was my “fifteen minutes”. 

Overall, a good experience for me.  Stood up for our country, made my dad proud and I got a date from it.


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Re: Obama: 57 States with 1 more to go ...?
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2008, 05:42:47 PM »
Funny Story.  You think Imawackjob was one of the Iranians? Now we have something to pin on you (medal or something).  You should do a freedom of information act and get your FBI file for some nostalgic, college daze, messin' wit radicals photo slide show.

Now back to the thread (no hijacking 'round here pal):  Revolution is a word like awesome.  Very powerful, but it has been misused/overused for so long it holds hardly any meaning anymore.  It's hardly punctuation in the common vernacular.  If you haven't picked up on it, I have a bit of a sarcastic streak (murmuring sounds throughout the crowd).  Aside from the "Regan Revolution", the only other to speak of was in 1994 with the Contract with America (what the hell happened to that Newt?).  Both of those were bloodless (insert your own sarcasim here).  Both were based in conservatism. However, the second took place after the 24hr news cycle, and they were either ill prepared or unwilling to see it through to its logical conclusion.  People thought they were mean 'ole Republicans (insert jeering sounds here) and they folded like Kadalfi's MiGs over the Med.

I realize the reality when revolution is mentioned (is there an "R" Pat?).  The Republican Party needs a jolt of reality.  Without its conservative base it is Democrat lite, sometimes worse.  I voted for Charlie Crist here in Florida along with Mel Martinez.  What do I have to show for it.  They both, recently, have illustrated their unwillingness to allow drilling off the Florida coast.  I don't know if you are aware, but Cuba in league with the Chinese can drill for oil closer to the Florida coast than a US company can!  We still have a Department of Education.  Gov. Swartzenegger thinks we need to "rebrand" the Republican party.  These are just a few things that come screaming to mind.  Who is to blame?  The party of the afore mentioned revolutions. 

I believe we have a unique opportunity this election cycle.  Sen. McCain, despite what present polls offer will defeat both Hillary or Obama.  There are still people in this country unwilling to embrace the wild Marxist tripe they both are offering, however freedom loving Americans (those damned revolutionaries) can illustrate their unwillingness to rubberstamp the Republican "rebranding".  It is already showing.  McCain is depending on the RNC's deep pockets because no one is willing to fill his.  The coresponding shot in the arm the Libertarian Party will get should move them past the "drug party" into a more vocal position in the public debate.

Enough babbling! Fair Tax now and all that rot.  Good day gentlemen, and Ron J.
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Re: Obama: 57 States with 1 more to go ...?
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2008, 08:25:45 AM »
Yeah, my Iranian episode was somewhat funny.  At that time, it wasn’t so much the political side that motivated me to do what I did.  It was that they accused the police of brutality that pissed me off.  Also funny that every couple of years or so when I get together with my college friends someone always says, “I remember when you …”. 

I actually agree with you and others on many of the issues in this election.  For one, I have always leaned towards the Libertarian side of politics.  Run the country like a business.  We don’t need to be the world’s policeman either.  However, should some “Imawhacajob” dare step on America’s or our allies interests (which will effect our interests) we need swift reaction and thus, we must have a strong military. I am a big fan of the “fair tax” too and while I don’t see any compelling evidence that “global warming” is anything but a source or revenue for some, we do need to reduce our reliance on foreign sources of energy and be more "green".  As well, I would love to see the US evict the United Nations.  Send their HQ to Darfur. 

The only reason I am for McCain is because we can’t afford at this time in history to use OBama as an object lesson for conservative or libertarian politics and values.  The danger in both the long term and the short term that Obama brings is far greater than any actual gain we could ever accomplish by using him as a lesson.  We as a country will be better off with McCain and working with our elected officials and working with our communities to groom more people with conservative values than allowing Obama to win. 



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Re: Obama: 57 States with 1 more to go ...?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2008, 11:22:16 AM »
I love the quote … "The majority? The majority sir, is an ass."    Even though we will disagree … I still need to buy you a beer someday!  :)  

Man … that Mao quote reminds me of an experience I had with it when I was in college.  At the risk of hijacking my thread, there is some humor in this.  As well, it goes to your comment about “standing up”. 

It was in 1979 that I had an "encounter" with some Iranians who came to my school to protest police efforts that stopped a riot about the Shah's family living in Beverly Hills.  They had their black and red posters loaded with Maoist and Islamic slogans.  I was probably a little hung over (ok, a lot hung over) when this Iranian woman shoved a picture in my face of a LAPD or possibly LA County Sheriff’s car driving by a couple of “diving” Iranian rioters.  She said, “Look at this police brutality!” 

I kept walking not paying much attention.  We always had some nut-job trying to sell your intellect something on campus and I had seen that picture before on the news.  But after four or five steps something made me turn around. 

I went back to her and gently asked if I could see that picture again.  She started going off with her anti-America, anti-Shah, Islamo-bullshit and I said “No.”   She stopped, looked at me kind of like a dog would when they turn their head to the side after you give them a command.  But before she could say “woof”, I said, “No, that’s not police brutality.  You see, if I were that cop (pointing at the picture), I would have got out of my car and it would have been ‘stick-time’ … that’s where I would put my nightstick up that dumb son of a bitch’s ass … sideways.  Now that’s police brutality, bitch”. 

Being at a somewhat liberal university in Southern Cal I don’t think she really expected that.  And I wasn’t done with her yet either.  I asked her if they “stayed up all night to figure out those cute slogans?”  Her pride swelled past the shock of what I just told her and she was quick to reply that they were their slogans and that they “would march down the streets of Long Beach to prove it”.  I pulled my sunglasses down so she could see my blue eyes and said, “That’s really funny, Mao said the same thing in 1949. By the way, if you are serious about this, when you come down my street I have a surprise for you.”  By now, there were a couple of scrawny Iranian dudes that came up to stand by her.  These guys were dressed like Martin & Ackroyd in the SNL skit about the “wild and crazy guys” that were “looking for foxes”.  I winked at them and walked away. 

Fun part was yet to come.  I walked in to what we called the “Greek Room” where the folks in fraternities and sororities hang out.  Just sat down to talk to some friends about this drop dead gorgeous Delta Gamma that I wanted to take out when the Iranians got on a PA system outside and started to talk about their Islamo-bullshit and how the Shah’s family was living large in BH because of the “American swine Jimmy Carter”. They went on with some “planted” questions which their moderator had canned answers for.  Then they made a mistake … they asked if anyone wanted to ask a question. One of my friends looked at me and chided, “Hey RonJohn, how much more of this shit are you going to take?”  Not much.  I walked outside and right up to the mic.  There were a few objections at first but after I said “You asked for questions, I have one … why, are you afraid I might ask a question that you haven’t rehearsed for?”  I was allowed to have the mic for one question. 

Asking a question was not exactly what I had in mind.  I got up and begin to tell them that they blame everyone else for their “shithole existence” and it’s “time to play well with others”.  About 75% or more of the crowd cheered.  Their moderator was a little upset so he demanded in his best Farsi/English accent that I ask a question or get off the mic.  Fair enough so I asked, “Do you think its right to come here to the USA on student-guest visas and tear up our neighborhoods so that MY tax dollars have to fix your mess?  Screw you.  Why don’t you clean up your own mess or better yet, why don’t you all just GO HOME?!?” Thought about adding to this because I was starting to have fun but they killed the mic on me. 

I stepped off the podium and turned to the moderator/leader and said, “Here’s another question for you, why don’t you go f..k yourself?”  Feeling pretty good about myself I started to walk away.  Out of the blue, this dickwad turns the mic back on and says that I am “a CIA plant”.  The small, pro-Iranian crowd started to chatter but they were very outnumbered and now being heckled and interrupted by a couple dozen guys from my fraternity and a few others that had started chanting, “USA all the way”.  When they heard this guy say that I was a CIA plant, they alternated with “CIA all the way”.  With the crowd against them, the Iranian protest quickly ended.  Pretty comical for a typical hung over day in college.  

I get home and my dad who had recently retired from LBPD asked how school was?  Before I could answer, he says, “They got a lot of good pictures of you at school today.”  One of his buddies from the PD called and said that they and the FBI were there taking pictures of everyone at this protest.  When my dad’s friend recognized me, he called to tell my dad about it.  He starts to laugh and says, “CIA plant?  Yeah right!”  Next day, front page of the school paper there was a big ‘ol picture of me at the mic pointing my finger at the crowd.  Caption was “student Ron Johnson, leading counter demonstration”. A smaller secondary picture was of me in the face of one of the Iranians and they called me a “heckler” which I thought was funny.  Guess that was my “fifteen minutes”. 

Overall, a good experience for me.  Stood up for our country, made my dad proud and I got a date from it.



Don't fall down but thats another one we will agree on ;D  I was in the Marines at that time wishing that "Jimmy" would let us do our job.

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Re: Obama: 57 States with 1 more to go ...?
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2008, 01:51:35 PM »
Is one of the states Cuba? I heard Castro supports him.
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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2008, 02:22:21 AM »
Is one of the states Cuba? I heard Castro supports him.


Thats the "one more to go", the others are currently called Canada.

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Re: Obama: 57 States with 1 more to go ...?
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2008, 05:02:23 PM »
Obama's "Not Exactly's":   This person is more dangerous than any candidate in recent years....
 
1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe
enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as
Selma was in 1965. (Google'Obama Selma' for his full March 4,
2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)
 
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a
privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan
Government.
 
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he
was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has
ever had.
 
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT
EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting
to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first
widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American
but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your
half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your
New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out
the following link for verification of that....and for more.
 
Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and
tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the
elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned
men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took
shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here
started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know
the truth.
 
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT
EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own
interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been
one of 14 wives to 1 man.
 
6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is
Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means
'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is! not half black. If elected, he
would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black
President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side
and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While
Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family
was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African
Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states
he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-Americ
an,_only_6.25%25_African
 
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it
daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that
faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run
for office.  4-3-08 Article "Obama was! 'quite religious in
islam'"
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
 
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you
were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic
Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a
year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to
prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed
delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks),
Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest
sounds on Earth at sunset." This is just one example of what Pamela
is talking about when she says "Obama's narrative is being altered,
enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts."
 
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one
teacher says you could speak the language.
 
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign
Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and
couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the
Koran and watch cartoons.
 
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except
for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have
never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience
with our closest allies.
 
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT
EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no
mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your
classmates said you were just fine.
 
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT
EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It
doesn't, and never did, exist.
 
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life -
NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your
book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
 
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT
EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have
enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience  first.
 
16.) Voting "Present" is Common In Illinois
Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
 
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by
church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
 
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a
senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
 
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were
a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
 
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT
EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.
 
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it
took just 14 days from start to finish.
 
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill
! was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all
regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which
David Axelrod came.
 
23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of
March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be
released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
 
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT
EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld
Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
 
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY,
your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which
lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
 
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY,
even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
 
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY,
they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their
creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher
office.
 
28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA -
NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the
conversation your campaign had with them.
"Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History ! "
 

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Re: Obama: 57 States with 1 more to go ...?
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2008, 05:04:22 PM »
And THAT... is what stays in my mind.
Interesting WE are the ones accused of being racist..

This guy wants to be our President and control our government.

Pay close attention to the last comment!!


Below are a few lines from Obama's books, his words:


From Dreams of My Father:  'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.

From Dreams of My Father :  'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father:  'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

From Dreams of My Father:  'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

From Audacity of Hope:  'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
'

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Re: Obama: 57 States with 1 more to go ...?
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2008, 06:05:00 PM »
Outstanding information!!!! 

 

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