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MikeBjerum

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What is the threshold?
« on: February 28, 2013, 12:59:54 PM »
What is the threshold of danger to warrant removing something from the hands of the people?

What is the threshold of danger to warrant removing a citizens Constitutionally protected rights?

What is the threshold of danger to warrant changing our Constitution to remove a protection?

My warped mind goes round and round, and I had a thought this morning:

President G.W. Bush was in office when we went to war with two countries.  Much of the reasoning for these actions were the dangers presented in those two countries.  United Nations investigators found reasonable cause to believe that Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction" based on how their admittance was being limited, denied, and delayed.  The amount of damage and death that has been laid on our military over there by IEDs and small arms means nothing to the elected officials blaming Pres. GW Bush.  It also means nothing to many in our nation.

If explosives and small arms of all types are not a concern when viewing an unfriendly nation, and if they should be no problem for our mighty military:

Why do we see semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, handguns, magazines of above a certain capacity, certain accessories for carrying and aiming weapons, and certain configurations and styles be a threshold that demands removing our Constitutionally protected right?
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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 02:06:07 PM »
At the risk of sounding cliche' I will remind you that, for the people pushing the gun bans, it has nothing to do with safety. It's all about exerting as much TOTAL control over every aspect of our lives. They don't want us free, with the means to stop them. They want sheep, that will believe every word they say, and go willingly to the slaughter. It's much easier to hand over the U.S. to the U.N. without people protesting about sovereignty, and independence. So shut up, stop thinking, and get on the train you miserable peasant.
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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 02:20:22 PM »
At the risk of sounding cliche' I will remind you that, for the people pushing the gun bans, it has nothing to do with safety. It's all about exerting as much TOTAL control over every aspect of our lives. They don't want us free, with the means to stop them. They want sheep, that will believe every word they say, and go willingly to the slaughter. It's much easier to hand over the U.S. to the U.N. without people protesting about sovereignty, and independence. So shut up, stop thinking, and get on the train you miserable peasant.

+1

One world government run by those schooled in the George Soros management style...

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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2013, 02:34:18 PM »
I see a bump or two on that road.
Not to mention the occasion "technical difficulty" with the "trains to the East".

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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2013, 02:42:23 PM »
I see a bump or two on that road.
Not to mention the occasion "technical difficulty" with the "trains to the East".

New used for rope? Tying politicians to the tracks?
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Re: What is the threshold?
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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2013, 02:45:31 PM »
I was thinking more of derailing the train and letting the prisoners escape .
I suspect that by that time they would no longer be so appreciative of the "vacation" the Progressives had in mind.

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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2013, 02:55:49 PM »
JC5123,

I understand where you are going, but I'm trying to get people to think clear.  Your thought is along the line of what Mom always asked "If everyone else jumped off the bridge would you too?"

Just because the current movement is to create a single world government and like mindedness does not mean we should just be lemmings.

So let's just pretend that we are an independent and sovereign nation with a Constitution that protects the God given rights of its citizens.
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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 03:02:06 PM »
I think NY state has passed the threshold.
I think the threshold should be if the current gun control assault does not result in the repeal, or overturning of at least half of existing gun laws.
The only valid gun law in America is the 2A.

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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 03:10:00 PM »
Uncle Ted!!!  I Love You!!!
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Re: What is the threshold?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2013, 05:05:06 PM »
JC5123,

I understand where you are going, but I'm trying to get people to think clear.  Your thought is along the line of what Mom always asked "If everyone else jumped off the bridge would you too?"

Just because the current movement is to create a single world government and like mindedness does not mean we should just be lemmings.

So let's just pretend that we are an independent and sovereign nation with a Constitution that protects the God given rights of its citizens.

Great fantasy you have got going there. In all seriousness, I do understand what you're thinking. Here is what I see as the reason we cannot effect real change; we have the numbers to change the direction in this country. We have no leaders that will do what needs to be done. I don't want to admit it, but many times in the last decade, I have felt that we have passed the point of no return. We are at the point where we have only that "last box" option left to us. Now they want to take that away. That is how I know we are there. They know this too. They know that the game is rigged. They know we have wised up to that fact. They know that we are tired of the games, that they have finally pushed the last buttons.

Wow, I drifted there...... ::)
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