Do Violent Video Games Play A Role In Todays Culture Poll.

[jaybet]

Yeah, but how do you really feel Tom?

[santahog]

There's been a commercial running for the last couple of days that just rubs me the wrong way, and fits perfectly in this thread.
I don't know what game it's selling, so I'd never be able to find it, but it goes like this..
Early 30s guy has a bad morning, (burns toast, burns hand, spills something, etc.) trying to get out the door to get to work. Ater 8 or 9 "things, he turns to the camera and the voice over says something to the effect of "Go ahead".
Then it turns into the video game where this guy, (in game mode, of course) takes a sabre and chops everything around him in half, ending in a pic that identifies the guy as the guy in the game..
It encourages violent revenge against a world that is a pain in the ass.. (Kind of like road rage..)
If you're simple minded enough to fall for the ad, be it the game or "acting out" you're simple minded enough to be encouraged to do hurt somebody, even though "that guy" is the ultimate chicken shit of a person in doing so..
Don't forget the crazy pills and the effect they have on those who have them shoved down their throats.. They ain't sugar pills..
I think it would be beneficial to get video games out from under the kids noses for extended periods of time, and get em out in the woods with a walking stick and fishing pole..

[tombogan03884]

Yeah, but how do you really feel Tom?

Yes, I know, if I keep posting such sugar coated opinions I'll just give myself an ulcer.  

There's been a commercial running for the last couple of days that just rubs me the wrong way, and fits perfectly in this thread.
I don't know what game it's selling, so I'd never be able to find it, but it goes like this..
Early 30s guy has a bad morning, (burns toast, burns hand, spills something, etc.) trying to get out the door to get to work. Ater 8 or 9 "things, he turns to the camera and the voice over says something to the effect of "Go ahead".
Then it turns into the video game where this guy, (in game mode, of course) takes a sabre and chops everything around him in half, ending in a pic that identifies the guy as the guy in the game..
It encourages violent revenge against a world that is a pain in the ass.. (Kind of like road rage..)
If you're simple minded enough to fall for the ad, be it the game or "acting out" you're simple minded enough to be encouraged to do hurt somebody, even though "that guy" is the ultimate chicken shit of a person in doing so..
Don't forget the crazy pills and the effect they have on those who have them shoved down their throats.. They ain't sugar pills..
I think it would be beneficial to get video games out from under the kids noses for extended periods of time, and get em out in the woods with a walking stick and fishing pole..

Maybe we should ban NASCAR from TV since that encourages the "weak minded to speed on the roads and cars kill far more people than guns.

[JLawson]

Hey Santa... here's your commercial.

[Solus]

Well, you can look at that commercial another way.

When it seems like the whole world is out to get you so thoroughly that even your shoe laces have turned on you, take it out on the Evil Things in our Video Game and leave the real world to muddle along as it may.

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

Well, you can look at that commercial another way.

When it seems like the whole world is out to get you so thoroughly that even your shoe laces have turned on you, take it out on the Evil Things in our Video Game and leave the real world to muddle along as it may.

I finally agree with something Solus posted.
No matter how bad your day, if you kick something in a video game you don't have to worry about breaking a toe .   

[philw]

Not unless you are totally devoid of knowing right from wrong, reality vs fantasy - which would totally qualify you for Congress.

Bingo 

I like playing  every now and then games like COD  or Battlefield    I am not a hard core gamer by any means however i don't mind every now and then waisting a bit of time playing them

sniper elite v2 is one i am looking at has amazing graphics  and very accurate details    with out going though all the gory details though

[crusader rabbit]

I think there is a major difference in people playing these games as adults (with a formed moral core) and preadolescent kids who are developing their values.  The formation of the ability to think things through doesn't really kick in until the early twenties. 

So, it is my thought that kids brought up on violence, be it gaming or real such as in Uganda, are much more likely to turn to violence in real life situations.

Do I have actual proof of this.  Not really.  I have completed no double blind studies on murderous little shites in modern society.

But, in each of the recent school shootings and mass murders, the perps were and had been active gamers. 

Is it correlation or coincidence?

I honestly don't know. 

But a lengthy series of coincidences is most unlikely.

FWIW
Crusader Rabbit

[Solus]

I think there is a major difference in people playing these games as adults (with a formed moral core) and preadolescent kids who are developing their values.  The formation of the ability to think things through doesn't really kick in until the early twenties. 

So, it is my thought that kids brought up on violence, be it gaming or real such as in Uganda, are much more likely to turn to violence in real life situations.

Do I have actual proof of this.  Not really.  I have completed no double blind studies on murderous little shites in modern society.

But, in each of the recent school shootings and mass murders, the perps were and had been active gamers. 

Is it correlation or coincidence?

I honestly don't know. 

But a lengthy series of coincidences is most unlikely.

FWIW
Crusader Rabbit

So you are thinking that the zero tolerance policy about firearms might do some good in protecting youth from the influence of lethal weapons, actual or symbolic, until they are in their early 20s?

[crusader rabbit]

So you are thinking that the zero tolerance policy about firearms might do some good in protecting youth from the influence of lethal weapons, actual or symbolic, until they are in their early 20s?

Quite the contrary...

While training with real weapons will most likely undertaken in an adult/child environment with simultaneous parental/authority-figure bonding, violent video games are most often played in isolation. 

Training with real weapons is most likely a weekly or monthly session involving a socializing day at the range.  Video games are played in socially isolating environments for hours on end on a daily basis.

Video games provide a horribly skewed perspective on violence, while firearms training develops healthy attitudes regarding force and violence.  Violent games show nothing about the long term and emotionally devastating results of killing dozens of people.

In real life "video game" situations, such as experienced by the devastated children soldiers of Rwanda or Uganda, you have a similar every hour of every day situation.  And these kids come out dangerously disturbed, if they come out at all.

So, while I think proper firearms training is appropriate for youngsters from about seven onwards, I think the isolating and mental programming aspects of violent video games should be restricted to those who have at least the frontal lobe development needed to understand that it is simply a game. 

Until they have reached their early twenties, that development just does not exist.

Crusader