Firt Arrest in NY?

[Jrlobo]

So the strategy begins...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/15/new-york-state-gun-law-arrested/1990899/

[tombogan03884]

If you read the article the guy sold a gun to some one who claimed to be a felon.
The guy is lucky the State is charging him since it's a FEDERAL crime.

[Jrlobo]

Perhaps the feds haven't been "invited" by the evil empire yet? Bet they all weigh in for max punishment before it's over. But the strategy is there for all to see: undercover cops using anti-terrorism sting tactics to nail some stupid people to prove their point. Perhaps there is more to this story, as we never seem to get the real story the first time. Wait and see.

[MikeBjerum]

I am so sick of all the crap that I'm going to jump to one issue that I have made off and on:

Read how they treat the "AR-10" in the article.  These idiots are so wrapped up in "Bushmaster" and "AR-15" that they don't realize that more companies make AR rifles, and that there are different variants of the AR platform.

[JC5123]

Have to agree with Tom on this one. As soon as the Agent said she was a convicted felon, the guy should have said, sorry no sale. They may have still been able to arrest him under the new laws, but he would have more of a fighting chance in court. The fact that he was willing to complete the sale to someone who he had reason to believe was a felon makes this guy an idiot.

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[tombogan03884]

The fact that the agent even mentioned being a felon would have made me suspicious.

[fightingquaker13]

Have to agree with Tom on this one. As soon as the Agent said she was a convicted felon, the guy should have said, sorry no sale. They may have still been able to arrest him under the new laws, but he would have more of a fighting chance in court. The fact that he was willing to complete the sale to someone who he had reason to believe was a felon makes this guy an idiot.

Not just an idiot, but our enemy. This wasn't some Randy Weaver BS. The agent gave him the chance to walk away. He didn't. Guys like this give us a bad name. I'll support law abiding gunowners. But if you knowingly sell to a felon? Sorry, you ain't my brother.

[crusader rabbit]

Gotta agree with the Quaker here. 

Buyer admits/claims to be a felon. 

That sales transaction should be ended immediately--even if the seller could really use the money.  To complete the transaction is foolish and illegal.

It's stupidity like this that reflects poorly on all legal gun owners.  It's no surprise that NY would stoop to this sort of entrapment, but in the end, the fault lies with the stupid seller.

Crusader Rabbit

[tombogan03884]

It's just like the FBI's "terrorism" stings, and "drug" stings.
They ain't targeting rocket scientists.

[MikeBjerum]

Gotta agree with the Quaker here.  

Buyer admits/claims to be a felon.  

That sales transaction should be ended immediately--even if the seller could really use the money.  To complete the transaction is foolish and illegal.

It's stupidity like this that reflects poorly on all legal gun owners.  It's no surprise that NY would stoop to this sort of entrapment, but in the end, the fault lies with the stupid seller.

Crusader Rabbit

There is the key right there!  People break the law.  In a nation of presumed innocence gun owners are all considered guilty.  There will always be law breakers in all areas of life.  

Did he break the law?  Yes he did!  Did the current law stop him from breaking the law?  No it didn't.  Will more and more restrictive laws stop a person in this mindset?  Think about it!  He is criminal and not willing to live within the law ... Doh!

We need to include the fact that we are not the criminals, and that the majority should not be punished for the actions of a small portion of society.