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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2013, 01:03:25 AM »
I've thought of that. I'll suggest that as a last resort. I just know that she is trained and comfortable with her Glock. So getting her to switch to a revolver may not go over well. She usually carries in her purse, and is worried about an accidental discharge. Personally I'm thinking that if she went from sub compact to full compact and carried on her body she would re-think her position.

That is what S&W made the 500 magnum for.  Put it in her purse and let her hit the bad guy with the purse  :o
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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2013, 01:44:25 AM »
Or you could just get a gun with 1 or more safetys.   a 1911 needs 3 things to go bang, a glock only one.
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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2013, 11:46:25 AM »
Or you could just get a gun with 1 or more safetys.   a 1911 needs 3 things to go bang, a glock only one.

That is an issue I have with the Glock, M&P and XD.  The trigger safety is a little too easy to disengage.  Good firearm safety is always important, but the bang switch on these guns are ...
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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2013, 12:13:35 PM »
That is an issue I have with the Glock, M&P and XD.  The trigger safety is a little too easy to disengage.  Good firearm safety is always important, but the bang switch on these guns are ...

And that is where her fear comes from. I "modified" her purse in such a way that she has a pocked with a mounted Thumb Drive Holster in there, so something hooking the bang switch isn't really a concern. I don't have anything more than a decocker on either of my main pistols, but I carry IWB and am just simply more comfortable. I think in the end I need to convince her to carry on her body. I think that would alleviate the fear of hooking the trigger.  

I've also got us signed up for another pistol class in a few weeks, so maybe more training will help too. Gonna be a good shooting year! I'm signed up for 2 sniper competitions, 2 pistol classes, 2 carbine classes, and a shotgun class, and it's only March!
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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2013, 12:47:47 PM »
As long as she has a good sturdy kydex or heavy leather holster that covers the trigger, and she is well practiced in good holstering skills, she will be fine with any firearm in good repair.
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Re: Round in the Chamber
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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2013, 12:30:56 AM »
The xd  has a grip safety.  The m&p and xd both have options for a thumb safety.  I understand the idea that simple is better, but I also understand that people do dumb things.   it would be intresting to see numbers on the number of nd with guns with out compared to those with safetys.   don't get me wrong, ADs do happen, but they are rare and often are cuased by equipment failure.
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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2013, 10:31:47 AM »
Not to annoy the Glock fans but the lack of safeties beyond the trigger has always bothered me as a professional safety dude. I know the statistics do not show a higher AD rate but I like the idea of redundant safeties probably due to the way we structure safety programs in industry with 3 redundant safe practices to avoid injuries. It allows me to get a warning alarm when the knucklehead violates 1 or 2 steps without serious damage or to point out that firing the asshole is warranted since he went out of his way to do 3 things wrong! If your brain doesn't like the answer, you won't do it daily. Logical argument is not very powerful in the face of instinctive reluctance.

I like the 1911 thumb safety as it is totally instinctive to me on draw and presentation. It was one reason to try the Ruger SR9 which I think is a great choice. Haven't shot the XD but the grip safety seems to meet the same need.

I would structure the discussion with her this way: "What would it take for you to feel comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber?" Long Pause for her well considered answer... "Lets try that."  One of my constant goals as a safety dude is to get the user to create the solutions so they own it.  This has the added benefit of needing to buy a new gun!
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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2013, 07:14:33 PM »
Always a round in the chamber and I carry a Glock daily. The only thing that is going to cause the firearm to go bang is once the trigger has been depressed.

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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2013, 03:45:02 PM »
Besides a round in the chamber, she needs to move from his line of movement and NOT necessarily  back.  Make him shift his forward movement to the side and try to minimize the possible contact with the blade.  Two shots may not be enough to stop the attacker.  This is practice we all need.  A willing Wife is a good thing.

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Re: Round in the Chamber
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2013, 08:42:07 AM »
I hope I don't sound stupid but if I'm carrying I carry on my belt, bag/off body, or shoulder holster I've never pocket carried. I assume with pocket carry it takes longer to draw so as Mr. Bane says you have to go to the gun sooner. But is there a higher risk or potential for AD with pocket carry?

I would think its one of the carry methods like off body that its a must to have a round chambered. No Israeli carry when it comes to deep concealment carry do to added time to draw. But do you ever feel nervous about a pocket carry in your front jean pocket or shorts. Just wondering. 
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