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Non-exclusive Gov't Distrust
« on: March 27, 2013, 11:58:34 AM »


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Should Distrust Of Government Be A Phenomenon Exclusive To Gun Owners?

"The most important service rendered by the press and the magazines is that of educating people to approach printed matter with distrust." -- Samuel Butler

In the current political climate surrounding the hot topic of gun control, there has been much attention focused on the subject of "gun owner paranoia." One mainstream news agency after another has decried the lack of progress regarding the gun control bills currently stagnating in Congress due to gun owners' supposed fears regarding gun bans and firearms confiscation.

However, despite the government assurances that gun confiscation is off the table, a sentiment that is being echoed by voices within the mainstream press, the reality is that guns have already been confiscated within U.S. borders in the past and this practice continues to affect law-abiding gun owners to this day.

Beyond confirming gun owners' fears regarding the issue of firearms confiscation, the mainstream media has alluded that the government's proposal to ban so-called "assault weapons" is, fair, equitable, and as far as the newly proposed gun control legislation will go. Other types of firearms would supposedly be left alone. However, despite the reassuring rhetoric, there are elements currently working within the government who not only want to ban so-called "assault weapons", but who also want to include handgun bans in future gun control measures as well.

So, the law-abiding gun owner's distrust of government intentions regarding gun control has a demonstrated basis in reality. The question is, should this distrust of government be a phenomenon that is exclusive to gun owners? After all, if the other half of America doesn't own firearms, then why should the non-gun-owning segment of the population pay any attention to the plight of law-abiding gun owners? If the basic, fundamental, and enumerated civil right to self defense was the only human right being trampled on by the government, then the other half of the country representing the non-gun-owning American population would essentially have nothing to worry about. Unfortunately, this begs the question--are the other civil liberties enumerated within the Bill of Rights being threatened in any way by the government as well?

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Re: Non-exclusive Gov't Distrust
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2013, 01:55:33 PM »
The government is like a prison work party repairing the road or picking up litter in front of your house.

You like the work getting done; you let them do the job; but you keep your eye on them every minute.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

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Re: Non-exclusive Gov't Distrust
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 09:08:46 PM »
The government is like a prison work party repairing the road or picking up litter in front of your house.

You like the work getting done ; you let them do the job; but you keep your eye on them every minute.

And thats where the plan starts to unravel....   ;)
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Re: Non-exclusive Gov't Distrust
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 10:30:04 AM »
And thats where the plan starts to unravel....   ;)


Well, there are something the government can do that the public sector can't....like the judiciary and the armed forces.

It isn't that they have jobs that need to be done, the problem is when they are allowed to do more than that granted by the  Constitution.

It is interesting to note that the Constitution and Bill of Rights proclaim that all rights belong to The People except as limited in the Constitution, but that the government can only do what is specifically granted it in the Constitution, everything else is a NoNo.

If that concept were followed, much of our troubles would be resolved.

Can you hang politicians posthumously?

 
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
—Patrick Henry

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

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Re: Non-exclusive Gov't Distrust
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2013, 01:57:38 PM »
Can you hang politicians posthumously?

Oliver Cromwell was tried and convicted of treason and beheaded,
10 years after his death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_cromwell#Death_and_posthumous_execution

On 30 January 1661, (symbolically the 12th anniversary of the execution of Charles I), Cromwell's body was exhumed from Westminster Abbey, and was subjected to the ritual of a posthumous execution, as were the remains of Robert Blake, John Bradshaw and Henry Ireton. (The body of Cromwell's daughter was allowed to remain buried in the Abbey.) His body was hanged in chains at Tyburn. His disinterred body was thrown into a pit, while his severed head was displayed on a pole outside Westminster Hall until 1685.

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Re: Non-exclusive Gov't Distrust
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Re: Non-exclusive Gov't Distrust
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2013, 05:20:57 PM »
Oliver Cromwell was tried and convicted of treason and beheaded,
10 years after his death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_cromwell#Death_and_posthumous_execution

On 30 January 1661, (symbolically the 12th anniversary of the execution of Charles I), Cromwell's body was exhumed from Westminster Abbey, and was subjected to the ritual of a posthumous execution, as were the remains of Robert Blake, John Bradshaw and Henry Ireton. (The body of Cromwell's daughter was allowed to remain buried in the Abbey.) His body was hanged in chains at Tyburn. His disinterred body was thrown into a pit, while his severed head was displayed on a pole outside Westminster Hall until 1685.

Absolutely British.   ;D
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

"When it comes to the enemy, just because they ain't pullin' a trigger, doesn't mean they ain't totin' ammo for those that are."~PegLeg

 

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