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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2013, 07:19:42 AM »
I'm tired of all this. 

REPEAL 1934 NFA

REPEAL 1938 FFA

REPEAL 1968 GCA

REPEAL 1990 CCA

REPEAL 1994 BHVPA



If you want to draw up a compromise, I'm willing to start with repealing 1968, '90 & '94.... for the time being.

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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2013, 08:36:19 AM »
Please listen to Alan Gottlieb on Tom Gresham's  Gun talk radio show. He explains the hole bill.   http://guntalk.libsyn.com/

One more thing. For all those people that want to roll back all gun laws, I agree with you totally.


It's just not going to happen!

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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2013, 08:43:40 AM »
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/

"Alan Gottlieb and CCRKBA had no business getting involved in writing Manchin-Toomey. Gun control legislation was slowly dying in the Senate until the "grand compromise" revived it. The gun prohibitionists have already jumped on Alan's statement. Mark Glaze, executive director of Mayor Bloomberg's Illegal Mayors, called it "a helpful development" in the Washington Post."


Thanks for polishing that turd Alan. >:(
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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2013, 09:56:49 AM »
Well, Buckshot, you don't have to yell! We can hear you. But Tom is right. There is no sense even discussing what's in the bill as it is just another compromise of our right to bear arms. Talk about grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory, this is it. Between what is happening on the federal level and the state levels, our right will be LEFT!
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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2013, 10:37:53 AM »
Are you making money off this ?
Or are you just OK with infringements that are convenient ?

Not at all.

It's like this.  

If I am getting physically beaten by the government 10 times a day, I'll work as hard as I can to stop the beatings.

If I have a chance to force them to cut back to 5 beatings a day, I'll do it and keep working to get rid of the rest.

From what you have been saying you would prefer to continue with the 10 beatings a day unless you can get them to stop them all at once.

In my opinion, that is not the optimal approach.

If we can work a way to have the most onerous aspect of background checks, the ability to build a registration database, without losing anything, we should take that opportunity and keep working for the while thing.

Recovering some of our lost rights in the process of fighting to get them all back is is not, in my view, a bad thing.


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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2013, 10:53:33 AM »
Thank You Solus. +100

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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2013, 11:23:58 AM »
Thank You Solus. +100


You are welcome, Buckshot...but, to be clear, I haven't said I support this bill, just said it would be better had it replaced the NICS system with the BIDS system because there is no possibility of building a registration data base with BIDS because no buyer information is sent.
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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2013, 02:46:38 PM »
I'm tired of all this. 

REPEAL 1934 NFA

REPEAL 1938 FFA

REPEAL 1968 GCA

REPEAL 1990 CCA

REPEAL 1994 BHVPA



If you want to draw up a compromise, I'm willing to start with repealing 1968, '90 & '94... not indicting AF employees and agents.... for the time being.

Fixed it for you .
But Buckshot is right.
The population is generally to gutless to make it happen .

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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2013, 02:53:30 PM »
Solus, I'm not sure if I support it at this time either . I need the time to go over it some more but at this time I think if it dose pass,it may will not hurt as bad as the Schumer bill would if it passes.

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Re: SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2013, 02:56:18 PM »
Solus, I'm not sure if I support it at this time either . I need the time to go over it some more but at this time I think if it dose pass,it may will not hurt as bad as the Schumer bill would if it passes.

Another one willing to accept "a little" infringement .   :-\

 

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