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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2008, 04:50:17 PM »
In the beginning of Rastus' youtube link Uncle Ted talks about being a sworn LEO for the past 32 years and he can carry nationwide because of House Resolution 218. He didn't mention anything about 24 hour LEO, that I heard, but one might take that as implied.  The only thing that irritates me about that is my CCW should be good everywhere if it's good in my state (and vice versa)... I shouldn't be forced to become a sworn LEO to get nationwide CCW privileges.

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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2008, 05:26:25 PM »

I also would like to hear what he does that you don't like.

 Now I know he is crazy as a shit house rat... but.........he puts on no airs. He is strong on what he believes and NEVER wavers from that. Some of the 'ways" he goes about it is a bit on the wild and strange side.. but ya gotta admit.. he is what he is..and he gets his point cross.  :o

Yes, Does anyone NOT understand where Ted stands on gun control ?  Both political parties are trying to sweep us under the rug, the dems because every time they spout anti gun rhetoric they lose, and the republicans because they don't want to admit that they owe us. But with "In your face" advocates like Ted Nugent, they are forced to speak up, and if they try BS they get called on it.

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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 05:35:11 PM »

I also would like to hear what he does that you don't like.

 Now I know he is crazy as a shit house rat... but.........he puts on no airs. He is strong on what he believes and NEVER wavers from that. Some of the 'ways" he goes about it is a bit on the wild and strange side.. but ya gotta admit.. he is what he is..and he gets his point cross.  :o

What I don't like is some one using a loop hole in the law, to get what they want.    I do like, him becuase he says what he thinks, I just don't like what he does when it comes to CCWs.

As far as the post about CCWs being good anywhere, I disagree with that aswell.   Not only from a USCONs of states rights, but from a pratical side... tell me, do you know every single state law when it comes to where and when its illegal to carry?
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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2008, 05:41:04 PM »
What I don't like is some one using a loop hole in the law, to get what they want.    I do like, him becuase he says what he thinks, I just don't like what he does when it comes to CCWs.

As far as the post about CCWs being good anywhere, I disagree with that aswell.   Not only from a USCONs of states rights, but from a pratical side... tell me, do you know every single state law when it comes to where and when its illegal to carry?

Not a relevant point. Federal law ALWAYS take precedence, That was the whole point of the Civil War. If the FEDERAL government says I can carry anywhere in the US then your state laws are irrelevant. Any law students here to verify this ?

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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2008, 05:59:27 PM »
in this case its a states rights... 


10 Amendment

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.





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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2008, 07:30:28 PM »
in this case its a states rights... 


10 Amendment

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


Like Highway regulations ? Such as that swine carters MANDATORY 55 ?
How ever the feds would over ride that by citing the 2A (when it suits their purpose) "Shall NOT be infringed", Thats Constitution, It's Federal so has precedence, and it's been on the books longer, which I THINK adds to the validity of the precedent. Of course this is just theoretical.

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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2008, 07:43:48 PM »
What I don't like is some one using a loop hole in the law, to get what they want.    I do like, him becuase he says what he thinks, I just don't like what he does when it comes to CCWs.

Some might consider it a "loop hole", but for some like me who live in a state without CCWs its the only way I can leagaly carry. Loop hole or not it keeps me and my family safe.

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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2008, 07:49:00 PM »
a big part of the prob is there are several other parts of the USCONS that trump the "Bill of Rights"     all of our rights have resitrictions.  


using the federal highway system  is  a privalage, not a right.  


Most of the "medical pot" guys like to tump thier state laws saying its legal... In this case federal superseeds the state law,  why?

It has to do with how they outlawed drugs... they placed a tax stamp( the NFA stamp is the same deal)  only they never releasted any of the stamps... this has been upheld several times in the court system.   Since the federal gov is using a power that is expressly given to them, that being the power to tax.

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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2008, 07:53:06 PM »
Some might consider it a "loop hole", but for some like me who live in a state without CCWs its the only way I can leagaly carry. Loop hole or not it keeps me and my family safe.

Steve
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Thats an issue you need to take up with your state, not use a federal law to bipass a state one.

While my state allows CCWs, my sherriff will not issuse them unless your a LEO, retired LEO, work for the DOJ or gave larage ammounst of cash to thier relection fund.( in fact recently he was nailed giving out permits to people that were prohibated from even owning guns, but had given thousands to him)

It also needs to be said, that if you beleave the only thing that will protect you and your family is a gun, chances are it won't.
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Re: Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2008, 08:09:04 PM »

Thats an issue you need to take up with your state, not use a federal law to bipass a state one.

While my state allows CCWs, my sherriff will not issuse them unless your a LEO, retired LEO, work for the DOJ or gave larage ammounst of cash to thier relection fund.( in fact recently he was nailed giving out permits to people that were prohibated from even owning guns, but had given thousands to him)

It also needs to be said, that if you beleave the only thing that will protect you and your family is a gun, chances are it won't.

FIRE EXTINGUISHER and gun will though ;D
One question though TAB, Why do you think the loophole is there in the first place. Besides, you can always do like I did and get the heck OUT of Ca.

 

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