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Re: TX soldier arrested for "rudely displaying gun"
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2013, 05:52:46 PM »
Fightingquaker you are a bit misguided on this issue first off the man was breaking no laws , secondly he was not suspected of committing a crime. Under Texas and Federal law he is not required to provide identification if he is not being investigated of committing  a crime nor does he have to provide a reason for carry. The cop was overstepping the law I hope he gets charged with oppression and illegal detainment. Just because someone is supposed to enforce the law does not meen they know it.

Swamp, FQ is usually misguided on damn near every topic. He voted for bho BTW.

Look, all of you trashing the soldier or backing the cop, remember this. The first words out of the cop's mouth when he started to cuff the soldier was that the soldier was "rudely" carrying a rifle. That ain't against the law - the cop was wrong, top to bottom.
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Re: TX soldier arrested for "rudely displaying gun"
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2013, 06:01:20 PM »
I'm not arguing legalities here, just common sense. When talking with a cop while wearing a visible and immediately deployable weapon, rule one is to separate yourself from the weapon. Then have the conversation. It turns the volume down by many notches. Its  not like you're going to shoot the officer, but he doesn't know that, and this lets him calm down as he is no longer concerned. If he wants to arrest you, he will, but its a PITA, not the end of the world as you were cooperative, within the law and on tape. But in Texas, I doubt it would have gone even that far. It was just two type A personalities meeting, neither showing any common sense and the guy with the badge won.

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Re: TX soldier arrested for "rudely displaying gun"
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2013, 06:49:04 PM »
I'm leery to support someone unless I know their full history. Plus this guy doesn't know the law. Even in Alaska or Arizona where you have permitless carry when confronted or pulled over by the police you will be disarmed for the duration of the stop. In Alaska you are required by law to notify the Trooper or officer you are armed. It's amazing that all the arm chair commando's are coming out to support this guy on THIS FORUM of all the forums out there. It's like nobody here has seen an episode of Best Defense's "How to talk to the police""How to not go to jail". Perhaps Michael needs to make a special episode just for the forums called "How to not act like an ass hat and keep out of jail". I've had the pleasure to meet and talk with a lot of cops. To almost a tee all have agreed, no matter what you've done if you act like a belligerent jackass you will take a trip to jail. I know there will be those who will say the cops should of done this or that, "nobody should have call the cops" and what not. The facts remain the only constant in this chaotic world is you. You can't stop incidents from happening all you can do is react appropriately. Act like a courteous adult and be on your way. Act like this guy and go to jail and probably lose your CCW/CHL.

PS This guy's pitiful the only thing wrong he didn't do was role around on the ground screaming "I know my rights!!!".

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Who died protecting his right of way.
His right was clear.
His will was strong.
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Re: TX soldier arrested for "rudely displaying gun"
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2013, 07:21:15 PM »
Agreed. This was an internet guy looking for a fight. I know Tx. gun law. I lived there and did the very thorough CHL class. He broke no laws. BUT one has to ask,why are you carrying and AR, why do you expect a cop not to ask you that, and finally, please, have an answer. "We were going to shoot, I was thinking I might see a feral hog".
But when it comes down to it, just put the damn rifle down and show some ID, have a civil conversation and odds are good you'll be on your way in 3 minutes. Now if the cop is a jerk and still arrests you? Well, there's that dashboard cam showing you were all sunshine and puppies which will play a whole lot better in front of a jury when you sue his department rather, than being belligerent. The guy was an idiot, and a jerk for dragging his kid into what knew was going to be a confrontation. This was just boneheaded on both sides.
Oh hell yeah. The guy is a prick. He got what he wanted. He will probably get a lot of money out of it and some publicity. He doesn't need a reason to carry it,other then because he felt like it. Hell there's always a loaded rifle laying in my backseat. I just like having it.

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Re: TX soldier arrested for "rudely displaying gun"
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2013, 08:01:00 PM »
Oh hell yeah. The guy is a prick. He got what he wanted. He will probably get a lot of money out of it and some publicity. He doesn't need a reason to carry it,other then because he felt like it. Hell there's always a loaded rifle laying in my backseat. I just like having it.
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100% correct. A few months ago we had a guy from my neck of the woods held in jail up in Utah for forty some odd days till he decided to tell the police his name. People make things hard for themselves. I often go on on walks with my rifle. I've been approached by the law while shooting on public lands. Never had a problem. Why because I act like a respectful mature adult(even if every girlfriend I've ever had would go to court to testify to the contrary). I bet this guy starts complaining of neck pain. Whadda Ya Wanna Bet.

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Re: TX soldier arrested for "rudely displaying gun"
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Re: TX soldier arrested for "rudely displaying gun"
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2013, 02:25:17 PM »
Fightingquaker you are a bit misguided on this issue first off the man was breaking no laws , secondly he was not suspected of committing a crime. Under Texas and Federal law he is not required to provide identification if he is not being investigated of committing  a crime nor does he have to provide a reason for carry. The cop was overstepping the law I hope he gets charged with oppression and illegal detainment. Just because someone is supposed to enforce the law does not meen they know it.

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Re: TX soldier arrested for "rudely displaying gun"
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2013, 03:06:12 PM »
you do  have to provide your name if asked.
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