Firearms on shelves, but no ammo

[GeorgeCook]

I don't know how it's going in the rest of the country but where I live (N.E. Florida), gun shops are starting to get ARs and other guns in stock. But the lack of ammo is starting to hurt sales.

I often think if the antis really want to kick us in the balls, all they have to do is get some legislation or regulations through that drives up the cost of ammo and reduces the supply.

So what's it like where you live?

[fatbaldguy]

.45 ACP, 9mm, .380 ACP, .40 S&W, almost non-existent.  5.56/.223 extinct or just about, found some .308 today and bought 100 rounds.  I'll get another 100 Monday. 2 and 3/4" #4 high brass is scarce as hens teeth.

[Pathfinder]

Mostly hunting ammo on the shelves here in ND, .243, .270, even some .30-06. Lots of shotty ammo. Almost nothing else in any centerfire caliber.

[ellis4538]

Hey FBG, come up to NE Ohio.  I won't say all ammo is plentiful and cheap but we have ammo and the price of 9mm is coming down!  Seems .380 and .223 are still up a bit too much for my taste.

FWIW


Richard

[crusader rabbit]

West Central Florida has almost no center fire OR .22 available in the shops I've been to.  .223 is scarce, but available at $1/round.  Guy at WallyWorld told me the stuff comes in in the evening and is brought to the floor early in the morning.  Said by the time they start bringing it out, there are people standing in line to buy.  They run out within the first half hour.  Favorite independent gun shop has some fresh guns, but little or no ammo in common calibers.  Odd.  Very odd.

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[tombogan03884]

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http://www.pressdot.net/report-obama-administration-enforcing-gun-control-through-ammunition-rationing-1137

REPORT: Obama Administration Enforcing Gun Control Through Ammunition Rationing   

Washington, D.C. – After months of speculation of the intent of the Obama Administration and the Department of Homeland Defense, many officials believe they now have the reason behind the massive ammunition stockpiles:  Rationing.  The Obama Administration has struggle with legislation to crack down on the 2nd Amendment, but throughout the process had plan B in effect.

Over the past few years, the Department of Homeland Security has purchased over 1,000 more rounds per person than Army.   At a recent hearing, Representative Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah stated, ”It is entirely … inexplicable why the Department of Homeland Security needs so much ammunition,” .

Chaffetz, who chairs one of the House oversight subcommittees holding the hearing Thursday, revealed that the department currently has more than 260 million rounds in stock. He said the department bought more than 103 million rounds in 2012 and used 116 million that same year — among roughly 70,000 agents.

Insiders who asked to remain anonymous were asked about the massive ammunition stockpiles and hinted that the massive stockpiles were achieving their end result, empty shelves.   The Obama Administration knew heading into their second term the fight on the 2nd Amendment would be tough, so instead of fighting that battle, they decided to remove the main component.  The insider stated, “There’s a good reason you can find shotgun ammo all day long, but not assault type rifles and handgun.  Thing about it, Joe Biden recently was encouraging gun owners to buy shotguns over assault rifles, this was their intention all along.”

One major side effect the Obama Administration failed to factor in, local law enforcement agencies are running short of ammunition supplies.  Another major side effect, although this one likely intentional, the price of ammunition has skyrocketed.  Many police agencies across the Nation have resorted to smaller bus due to the much higher cost and nationwide budget cuts.  It’s also been reported that many law enforcement agencies have had to use Airsoft guns for training to save ammunition.

Republicans on Captial Hill are introducing a bill that would force the DHS to make purchases that are more inline with historical numbers vs. the current levels, which are enough for an army.  Frank Lucas, R-Okla. stated:  “I was surprised to find out the DHS has the right to buy up to 750 million rounds of ammunition over the next five years, while it already has two years worth of ammo already,” Lucas said. “This is an issue that must be addressed, and I am pleased this legislation provides us the opportunity to do so.”

[Jrlobo]

Just ask jnevis, he always has a "reasonable" explanation for what the government is doing. I wonder why?

[tombogan03884]

Just ask jnevis, he always has a "reasonable" explanation for what the government is doing. I wonder why?

They pay him .
JNevis is a good guy, but just like so many other Govt employees, when it comes down to US and THEM he's a THEM because that's where his experience, paycheck, and benefits derive from.

[JdePietro]

powerful stuff Tom, and honestly I've been thinking that all along but...

Why is it that all ammo is scarce? .22, .357, 38 Spec, .380, 10mm. I don't recall hearing about these being purchased by the .gov.

For what its worth 9mm is starting to circulate and .45 ACP at tremendous cost have begun to surface. The only thing that seems to be unaffected is .357 Sig. 

[Bill Stryker]

Ammo is very scarce here in Michigan. And rationed to 3 or 4 boxes if you do find it.
I went to shoot the first pistol league of the year today and the shooter population was VERY thin. I would guess only a quarter of the shooters as last year. We used to have 40 or 50 on league day last year.
We all agreed that it was due to the shortage of centerfire pistol ammo and the high cost -- if you can find it. All had horror stories to tell about getting enough ammo to practice and shoot the match.
The guy behind the gun counter at the BX/PX told me they got "some" in on Tuesday and it was gone in an hour.
They did have long guns but no ARs that I saw. I bought a .22 pistol, but they had no ammo or extra magazines for it. Bummer.
I'm heading to the NRA meeting in Houston. Hope we can find something more out there.