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Hey Piers, ya see this?
« on: May 07, 2013, 05:42:14 PM »
In your face!  US firearm homicides at 20 year low!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22443441

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Re: Hey Piers, ya see this?
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2013, 05:47:11 PM »
In your face!  US firearm homicides at 20 year low!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22443441

As US gun ownership sky rockets .
Makes you wonder about why they keep pushing their failed gun control policies.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/06/the-firearms-statistics-that-gun-control-advocates-dont-want-to-see/

According to data from the FBI’s uniform crime reports, California had the highest number of gun murders in 2011 with 1,220 — which makes up 68 percent of all murders in the state that year and equates to 3.25 murders per 100,000 people.

The irony of such a grisly distinction is evident when you look at which state was named the state with the strongest gun control laws in 2011 by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. You guessed it — it was California.

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Re: Hey Piers, ya see this?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2013, 06:04:34 PM »
What is also of note is that FL passed it's law allowing Concealed Carry in 1987  and many states have done the same during the time period of this decline.

More guns, concealed carry spreading to almost every state and gun crime at 20 year lows...
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Re: Hey Piers, ya see this?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2013, 06:59:55 PM »
It seems despite the FACTS, the MSM has worked in controlling the narrative, as the low information citizenry think/believe gun violence is up.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gun-crimes-pew-report-20130507,0,3022693.story

Gun crime has plunged, but Americans think it's up, says study

By Emily Alpert

May 7, 2013, 12:46 p.m.

Gun crime has plunged in the United States since its peak in the middle of the 1990s, including gun killings, assaults, robberies and other crimes, two new studies of government data show.


Yet few Americans are aware of the dramatic drop, and more than half believe gun crime has risen, according to a newly released survey by the Pew Research Center.

In less than two decades, the gun murder rate has been nearly cut in half. Other gun crimes fell even more sharply, paralleling a broader drop in violent crimes committed with or without guns. Violent crime dropped steeply during the 1990s and has fallen less dramatically since the turn of the millennium.

The number of gun killings dropped 39% between 1993 and 2011, the Bureau of Justice Statistics reported in a separate report released Wednesday. Gun crimes that weren’t fatal fell by 69%. However, guns still remain the most common murder weapon in the United States, the report noted. Between 1993 and 2011, more than two out of three murders in the U.S. were carried out with guns, the Bureau of Justice Statistics found.

The bureau also looked into non-fatal violent crimes. Few victims of such crimes -- less than 1% -- reported using a firearm to defend themselves.

Despite the remarkable drop in gun crime, only 12% of Americans surveyed said gun crime had declined compared with two decades ago, according to Pew, which surveyed  more than 900 adults this spring. Twenty-six percent said it had stayed the same, and 56% thought it had increased.


It’s unclear whether media coverage is driving the misconception that such violence is up.
The mass shootings in Newtown, Conn., and Aurora, Colo., were among the news stories most closely watched by Americans last year, Pew found. Crime has also been a growing focus for national newscasts and morning network shows in the past five years but has become less common on local television news.

“It’s hard to know what’s going on there,” said D’Vera Cohn, senior writer at the Pew Research Center. Women, people of color and the elderly were more likely to believe that gun crime was up than men, younger adults or white people. The center plans to examine crime issues more closely later this year.

Though violence has dropped, the United States still has a higher murder rate than most other developed countries, though not the highest in the world, the Pew study noted. A Swiss research group, the Small Arms Survey, says that the U.S. has more guns per capita than any other country.

Experts debate why overall crime has fallen, attributing the drop to all manner of causes, such as the withering of the crack cocaine market and surging incarceration rates.

Some researchers have even linked dropping crime to reduced lead in gasoline, pointing out that lead can cause increased aggression and impulsive behavior in exposed children.


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The victims of gun killings are overwhelmingly male and disproportionately black, according to Bureau of Justice Statistics and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data. Compared with other parts of the country, the South had the highest rates of gun violence, including both murders and other violent gun crimes.

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Amazing how the actual numbers will be washed away,.....and the emotional knee-jerk MSM types like Piers will continue to spout out BS.

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Re: Hey Piers, ya see this?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2013, 10:53:05 PM »
What it does not tell you is that most of the murders happen in less then 5 citys.   there are 56 countys in ca, bet half didn't have a murder.
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Re: Hey Piers, ya see this?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2013, 02:03:07 PM »
What it does not tell you is that most of the murders happen in less then 5 citys.   there are 56 countys in ca, bet half didn't have a murder.

Don't quote me as I will deny I ever said such a thing, but, Tab has a valid point .
When I was taking note of it a while back I noticed that in the whole time I watched all the muders in Mass happened in the same 4 area's, all within the city limits of Boston.
Dorchester, Mattapan, Roxbury, and South Boston .
Often in the same area, Blue hills Avenue seems a popular spot for hits and robberies.

I'll go so far as to say every state is the same.

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2013, 03:17:52 PM »
In Chicago it's all the gangs on the south side. Those areas are all but 100% black. Good God how shocking!   ::)   I think Fox News reported that of all the murders in Chicago, only 3.4% were committed by whites.

 

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