Hofstra student was killed by police

[Solus]

There needs to be a "Priorities and Attitude" adjustment for many Police Officers, it seems.

If you are good enough to make a safe "hostage shot", you should be good enough to do it with one shot.

If you objective was to protect the citizen, that is.


Hofstra student was killed by police, authorities say

A Hofstra University student being held in a headlock at gunpoint by an intruder was accidently shot and killed by a police officer who had responded to the home invasion at an off-campus home, police said Saturday.

In a tense confrontation with the officer, gunman Dalton Smith "menaces our police officer, points his gun at the police officer," Azzata said. The officer opened fire, killing Smith and his hostage.

Azzata said the Nassau County police officer fired eight shots at Smith, who police described as having an "extensive" criminal background. Smith was hit seven times and died. Rebello was shot once in the head.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/19/hofstra-student-was-killed-by-police-authorities-say/

[Jrlobo]

I'm waiting to see how the lame stream media treats this incident.

[kmitch200]

Apparently he got his hostage rescue training from the movie 'Soldier'.   

[twyacht]

Tragic. There was also "friendly fire" incidents amongst the officer rich environment that was Boston with that shootout.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/us/boston-watertown-shootout

The officer training of today, as can be documented numerous times, is shoot, keep shooting, and keep on shooting until the threat has been neutralized.

Other news sources have the suspect hit 7 times, and the hostage struck in the head on the 8th shot.

I'm sure the officer is feeling terrible. But he relied on his training, and these things happen. I believe Uncle Ted called these repeat offenders, released, released again, and again rescidivistic maggots.

Truly sad. Too bad no one in the house had a firearm. But I digress. It is NY.

[TAB]

no winners there, thats for sure. 

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[Pathfinder]

Left out of the summary you posted, Solus, was the fact that the shooter was a former NYC PD officer. That explains the "empty the magazine" response - that's what they do in NYC. Odd that he actually managed to hit the perp, that's a new one for the NYC PD. Usually it's just the bystanders.

 

[Solus]

NYC has a lot of current examples of that trigger happy technique...but I also remember that series of "No Hesitate" targets that was posted here.

I am thinking that this "No Hesitate" training leads to "Shoot First, ask questions later" behavior.

[Ichiban]

Other news sources have the suspect hit 7 times, and the hostage struck in the head on the 8th shot.

That wording is a little misleading.  Eight shots fired, seven in the BG and one in the hostage.
I'd really like to know which shot actually was the one in the hostage.

[Solus]

That wording is a little misleading.  Eight shots fired, seven in the BG and one in the hostage.
I'd really like to know which shot actually was the one in the hostage.

Thinking about that, perhaps the most acceptable one would be the first one.

Tried to hit the bad guy, missed and got the hostage.  No reason not to shoot till the bad guy drops now.

[jnevis]

Officer training in a word, sucks.  It always has and always will as long as the administrators are more concerned with how much it costs as oposed to how effeictive it is.  80%+ officers never draw thier weapon in a career.  Using that logic, and the rising cost of ammo and range time, the training courses get cut back so now you have a bunch of guys on the street that if and when they do actually get in a violent confrontation, don't know what to do except "spray and pray."  Then it's up to the lawyers to sort it out, but since the department has a "state approved" training program they are marginally covered and it contiues.  On the otherhand if a department says "enough is enough" and raises the standards so maybe things like this doesn't happen, they are either paying to much for it (administration, local gov't) or blasted for buying to much ammo or readying for a war (citizens).