Sure Am Glad Armed DHS Officers Were There For The Tea Party Protest.

[Solus]

I believe you are right in this case, Pioneer.

But I bet a lot of the members of Hitlers SS were "every day people, who live in the communities, raise their kids, pay taxes, just like the rest of us."

[twyacht]

Sr. Judicial Analyst, and former Federal Judge, Andrew Napolitano, has a vid (at link) came out this morning. With his thoughts.

There is NO specific statute that specifies DHS "protect" Fed Property. This was a bully tactic and an intimidating move, once again by our illustrious regime.

Greta interviewed a Florida Tea Party Rally member, NO WHERE NEAR FED PROPERTY, and guess who showed up?

The DHS Po-Po... The "concept" of the DHS Police "obligated by statute to protect Federal Property" is a sham....


http://video.foxnews.com/v/2416516683001/did-dhs-send-armed-agents-to-tea-party-protests-on-irs/

Vids at link. To be fair, the DHS Police showed up at Occupy Rallies as well, also NO WHERE NEAR FED PROPERTY.

It's an intimidation tool.

[billt]

Anyone remember this?

[Rastus]

And then there is that whole NSA thing where some misguided whacko claims they have captured all of the data on this website and your Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, etc. account along with you telephone records from ATT, TMobile, Verizon, etc. 

Really guys.  Get off the conspiracy thing.  The little that may be done (and only under direct court order and oversight) will only benefit and help the citizen and will not be abused by politicians or bureaucrats despite any desires for personal gain or ideological advancement because they are true to what they say.  They do not collect information illegal to collect and misuse it...really...get a life.

C'mon...you don't really think the Administration would misuse intelligence, the IRS, BATF, The Justice Department, Homeland Security or other agencies for personal or ideological gain do you?  It's just for protecting federal buildings and property and "good" citizens...nothing else. Stay home, nothing to see here, move along....

Geez, you guys act like they would target individuals or individual creeds or religions...how hokey is that thought?  You are just conspiracy theorists run amuck...NO WAY this is being used against groups with differing beliefs of the Party like conservatives, Christians, Jews, etc....it's all in your little pea brains...nothing more.  Progressive liberal communist democrats are not misusing the system and putting overlords in placed...that's a fantasy...just look at Benghazi...all an overblown ruse by FoxNews to drum up ratings and start poo-poo.

You guys...get a life.  Jnevis is right on this one....open your minds and allay your fears.  They are from the government and they are not here to hurt you or deny you anything...they are your friends and cannot be misused.  They have families and mortgages and need a paycheck too.   We can all be secure knowing they will walk off their job for no money to do the right thing just like those good guys in the black uniforms in Germany in the 1930's and 40's.

Really guys.  So there is always a "guest" on the thread immediately after you post...even at 1:00 AM...don't be freaking out!  There are not progressive ideologues misusing anything or planning to change things behind your back.  It is nothing, relax, enjoy the nice warm water of the "frog pool".






PS:  Jnevis I really do think you are a good guy and that you are sincere and upstanding.  That is not to put you down...it is to affirm you are someone I like.  It's good to know there are good guys still in there....but there is a new young crew that lacks an adequate education or upbringing on the way.  I'm just going to have to lean the other way on this one.  I worked on a government project with a Congressional strategic designation and have a different take on the ease of which federal law enforcement (including private contractors) can be misused.  We may disagree on this one for a while.

[Solus]

You are correct, Rastus.  Thanks for yanking me back to reality.  I fee like a naive fool.


And yeah...this warm water is GREAT....so relaxing...ahhh.

[Sponsor]

[Rastus]

Anyone remember this?
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I wonder what the guys on the stage in back think about their boy now?

[tombogan03884]

I wonder what the guys on the stage in back think about their boy now?

Whatever their opinion, I bet they do not communicate it electronically .

[Jrlobo]

We all remember the cartoon depicting a mouse flipping the bird at the eagle swooping in for the kill. I am sure we all laughed at it. We all thought the mouse performing his last act of defiance was stupid for intimidating the eagle, didn't we? But, in reality, the outcome would be the same nevertheless...that mouse was going to die. If there were 9,900,000 mice flipping the bird at the eagle would the outcome change? Fear and defiance are partners in the mind of the mouse, but not in the eagle. And so it seems to be with 330,000,000 Americans (some of whom are citizens) and the U.S. government. To change the equation, the U.S. government must have fear of 9,900,000 Americans. In order for that to happen, 9,900,000 Americans have to flip the bird at the U.S. government. What better mechanism to do that than the internet? After all, we now know that the U.S. government is listening in and paying attention. And when the number of bird flippers reaches 9,900,000? Wow, that's 3%, isn't it? Maybe, just maybe, they become fearful and we get some semblance of our republic back. It's becoming obvious that the opposition to gun control issues alone will not reach the 9,900,000 bird flipping threshold. But when you factor in Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS political targeting, NSA phone records collection and NSA's PRISM internet snooping as well as gun control issues with a base of support of 5,000,000 people, you only need another 4,900,000 bird flippers to carry the day. At 9,900,000 bird flippers, even jnevis will pay attention...okay make it 99,000,000 for him!

[Magoo541]

If there were 9,900,000 mice flipping the bird sending rounds at the eagle would the outcome change?

FIFY

 

[Pathfinder]

We all remember the cartoon depicting a mouse flipping the bird at the eagle swooping in for the kill. I am sure we all laughed at it. We all thought the mouse performing his last act of defiance was stupid for intimidating the eagle, didn't we? But, in reality, the outcome would be the same nevertheless...that mouse was going to die. If there were 9,900,000 mice flipping the bird at the eagle would the outcome change? Fear and defiance are partners in the mind of the mouse, but not in the eagle. And so it seems to be with 330,000,000 Americans (some of whom are citizens) and the U.S. government. To change the equation, the U.S. government must have fear of 9,900,000 Americans. In order for that to happen, 9,900,000 Americans have to flip the bird at the U.S. government. What better mechanism to do that than the internet? After all, we now know that the U.S. government is listening in and paying attention. And when the number of bird flippers reaches 9,900,000? Wow, that's 3%, isn't it? Maybe, just maybe, they become fearful and we get some semblance of our republic back. It's becoming obvious that the opposition to gun control issues alone will not reach the 9,900,000 bird flipping threshold. But when you factor in Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS political targeting, NSA phone records collection and NSA's PRISM internet snooping as well as gun control issues with a base of support of 5,000,000 people, you only need another 4,900,000 bird flippers to carry the day. At 9,900,000 bird flippers, even jnevis will pay attention...okay make it 99,000,000 for him!

Truth is, you could have 50,000,000 Americans flipping the bird at the .gov, nothing will change. Nothing! The Federal bureaucracy alone seems to be approaching 50 million employees! 

The only thing that will change the .gov is for whatever percent of Americans need to react to start what was done in the Revolutionary times - tarring, feathering and running politicians and bureaucrats out of town on a rail - figuratively preferably, like the folks are doing in CO with the recalls. Literally, well, that's a whole lot uglier solution. It is considered a curse to tell someone - "May you live in interesting times", and the environment around real tarring and feathering - and the .gov's typically "normal" heavy-handed overreaction - would be very ugly.

The original patriots also burned down Tory homes and businesses, as well as .gov offices, as well as destruction of property in other ways (the original Tea Party dumping tea in the harbor for example).

I hope it doesn't come to this, but the Italians found an interesting solution to their fascist dictator when they strung Mussolini, his mistress, Prime Minister, et al. by the heels from lampposts in a gas station in Milan. That picture should by law hang in every Federal .gov employee's office - including the ones in Congress and the WH - as a "friendly" reminder of the ultimate power of the people.