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billt

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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2013, 05:17:03 AM »
I have "Zero Tolerance" for stories like this any longer.

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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 06:28:12 PM »
Flash Forward to the very near Future....Military Recruiter to potential candidate:  "Well what role do you see yourself in today's Army(Marines, Navy, Air Force)?  Candidate: " Really anything as long as I don't have to learn to shoot or have to carry a firearm."
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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2013, 07:38:21 PM »
Children are actually quite resilient and can tolerate amazing levels of unpleasantness. Its only when "well intentioned adults" begin to tell them how upset they are that they freak out . Watch a toddler take a tumble some time, they will usually react based on the parents reaction. Quit wussifying our kids and sprout a pair of onions. Every one will be better off.

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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2013, 09:07:26 PM »
The best Govt response to any perceived problem would be "ignore it and it will go away".
We have become the "Union of Socialist Busybody, Meddler's.
America's problem is not "Big Brother", it's "Maiden Aunt".
KMitch got it right with his signature line from Daniel Webster, (his birthplace is about 15 miles from here,)

"It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions."

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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2013, 09:15:29 PM »
Alexis  De Tocqueville put it best (as usual). I hate to give props to a Frenchman, but this guy had us pegged. From "Democracy in America".

“After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the government then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small, complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence: it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”
—  Alexis de Tocqueville - Democracy in America, Volume II (1840); Book Four, Chapter VI 

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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2013, 02:29:10 AM »
i would like to point out that zero tolerance is not always a bad thing in schools.  A zero tolerance for say smoking on campus or illegal activatys( drinking or pot comes to mind) for alot of things its not.
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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2013, 09:31:25 AM »
i would like to point out that zero tolerance is not always a bad thing in schools.  A zero tolerance for say smoking on campus or illegal activatys( drinking or pot comes to mind) for alot of things its not.

Zero Tolerance for illegal activities is a No Brainer..on campus or not.

Smoking is likely an illegal activity in most public buildings  and might be for under 18 year olds anyplace.

Having a toy gun or partially eaten Pop Tart isn't illegal in the vast majority, if not all, places.
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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2013, 12:31:46 PM »
Zero Tolerance for illegal activities is a No Brainer..on campus or not.

Smoking is likely an illegal activity in most public buildings  and might be for under 18 year olds anyplace.

Having a toy gun or partially eaten Pop Tart isn't illegal in the vast majority, if not all, places.

TAB will say you have to eat in a way that doesn't offend his sensibilities. It's a respect thing.....
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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2013, 06:01:38 PM »
TAB will say you have to eat in a way that doesn't offend his sensibilities. It's a respect thing.....

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Re: Zero tolerance strikes again!!!
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2013, 02:13:58 PM »
My final words on the subject...
 Creating rules without thinking through how they will apply to individual situations provides an easy out for administrators. It's convenient for the schools who won't have to make judgment calls if they have a rule they can apply brainlessly.
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