Author Topic: Status Of S. Korean M1's Still A Fight To Get Back, Thanks State Dept./BHO  (Read 2079 times)

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How many crimes are committed with Garands/Carbines? Seems our regime seems to think the risk is too great.

http://www.guns.com/2013/06/11/korean-m1s-still-in-limbo-new-bill-introduced-to-prevent-state-department-from-blocking-imports/

Korean M1s Still in Limbo, New Bill Introduced to Prevent State Department from Blocking Imports
6/11/13 | by Max Slowik

Wyoming Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R) is hard at work to reverse the decision made to block the re-importation of thousands of U.S.-made M1 Garands and M1 Carbines that were given to the South Korean military during the war and have since been taken out of service.

The Obama administration had originally green-lit the move to bring these collectible, American-made guns back home, then quickly turned around on their position, preventing their import in 2010.


Although Lummis has in the past fought to get some of these firearms into private hands, complications between the American importers, the South Korean ministry of defense and the administration have held back the importation of these guns.

The Star-Tribune reported that “Because the guns were given to South Korea during the war, State Department permission is required, according to ATF guidelines.”

But others suggest the reasons are more sinister than simply bureaucracy. “There is a fear of average people owning guns,” said Erich Pratt, director of communications for Gun Owners of America. “The administration has been in many ways trying to slice and dice our rights from us. This was another attempt at doing so.”

In June of last year Lummis and Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) passed legislation that would prevent the Department of State from interfering with the transfer of 87,000 of the Korean guns. This new bill — the “Collectible Firearms Protection Act” — goes much further than that, preventing the Department of State from interfering with the re-importation of any of these military surplus firearms, so long as they are American-made “curios and relics.”

South Korea has some 800,000 M1 Garands and Carbines, mostly Garands.

“The import restriction is the result of a complex set of federal laws. In 1984, Congress enacted legislation that allows the importation of military surplus “curio or relic” firearms.  The provision was later found to only cover firearms of foreign origin because another law, the Arms Export Control Act, prohibits the importation of arms that were originally manufactured in the United States and furnished to a foreign government,” the NRA-ILA explained.

“In 1988, Congress amended the Arms Export Control Act to specifically allow for the importation of U.S.-origin ‘curio or relic firearms,’ but various administrations have used certain requirements under that law to continue to block those imports.”

Lummis introduced H.R. 2247 this week, which would prevent the State Department from interfering with the importation of any “curio and relic” firearms that were made in the U.S., including all of the South Korean military surplus rifles and carbines.


These guns would then be sold as any other firearms, through regular firearm importers and through FFLs to individuals who submit to a background check.

“It’s disappointing that legislation is even necessary to allow U.S. citizens to access perfectly legal and regulated firearms, in this case storied, U.S.-made rifles that are pieces of U.S. military history,” Lummis said in a press release.

“This is a political stunt on the part of the State Department, pure and simple, while denying the exercise of Second Amendment rights by law-abiding citizens, firearm collectors, and competitive marksman.  The State Department has no business blocking domestic firearm ownership; they are way out of bounds and my legislation will put them back in their place,” she continued.


These M1 Garands and Carbines are not functionally different than any currently in production in the U.S., and are just as legal to own. Hopefully this bill will finally be what it takes to get these guns out of mothballs and into the hands of shooters and collectors.

Previously the Obama administration blocked these guns from being re-imported because they could be used to commit crimes.


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Already have a CMP Garand, and one of those Carbines (maybe two) has my name on it. Damnit!!!!! When will this crap end?

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its like I always pointed out to the antis back in ca on why the gun laws were messed up( mainly the awb)   a 10/22 with a detachable 11 round mag is felony.   but my 8 shot non detachable mag granad is perfectly legal. Even with its super evil clip   ;)   now which is more "deadly"?     
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its like I always pointed out to the antis back in ca on why the gun laws were messed up( mainly the awb)   a 10/22 with a detachable 11 round mag is felony.   but my 8 shot non detachable mag granad is perfectly legal. Even with its super evil clip   ;)   now which is more "deadly"?     
Depends on whether the 10'22 has a  quad rail, suppressor or flash hider. Oh, and whether it has a black polymer stock with a pistol grip.

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Depends on whether the 10'22 has a  quad rail, suppressor or flash hider. Oh, and whether it has a black polymer stock with a pistol grip.

Got to have a "barrel shroud" !
That thing that goes up on the back makes a 10/22 much deadlier than a Garand .
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you can take out a train or a plane with just a handful of scrap metal or bits from a hardware store.   should we make those illegal?   I would hate to see the damage a 22 could do to a turbine engine.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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you can take out a train or a plane with just a handful of scrap metal or bits from a hardware store.   should we make those illegal?   I would hate to see the damage a 22 could do to a turbine engine.

Can you hit one at 150 MPH ?

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yes I could,    if its coming towards you,  its not that hard to hit actually.   more so if you have an auto with tracer ammo.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Depends on whether the 10'22 has a  quad rail, suppressor or flash hider. Oh, and whether it has a black polymer stock with a pistol grip.

It's only dangerous if it has "one of those shoulder things that flips up."
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