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For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« on: July 06, 2013, 11:15:46 AM »
Yes, your Mosin CAN make Anti's cringe in fear!



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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2013, 02:58:14 PM »
I'm going to get one once they become available. They look as though anyone can swap them out. They'll sell millions of these!

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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2013, 04:15:35 PM »
You might want to hold off on these until they get the kinks out of it. This video shows how the rear of the Archangel trigger guard interferes with the trigger going back far enough. This will not allow the bolt stop to descend far enough to allow the bolt to be removed / installed. This guy took a Dremel and removed material from the stock itself. Something you shouldn't have to do with a new $200.00 stock to make it work properly.

I'm sure Archangel will rectify this condition quickly.


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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2013, 08:06:56 PM »
Really? A $100 Russian warhorse? Perhaps I'm ol' school and can rationalize an Arch Angel on a 10/22, but a Moisin?

Seen the trad. hunting stocks for them, been around a while.....But a Luke Skywalker stock? I don't know....

 :P

These rifles were built cheap to shoot cheap, to hit targets cheap, and function as a frontline rifle cheap. I own three, (gave one to my son), but I'm still wondering why.

What's next? A synthetic stock for my Garand? Perish the thought... ::)

It is pretty cool though... ;D
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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2013, 08:11:59 AM »
I learned to shoot with a M14. 

Loved it.  I hit the pop up targets from 25 to 300 ydr (or it might have been meters) every time..seldom missed.  It is great to have total confidence in your weapon.

I saw the first M16s arrive in our area and my first thought when I saw one was  "Mattel".  The also had considerable trouble in their early day and one of the reasons was a GAO swap to a cheaper powder that produced the same ballistics.  It did that ok, but it was very dirty and the rifle was not designed for that.  An example of the Bean Counters costing soldiers lives. 

Was never issued an M16 and was glad.

Later, back in the real world, I learned more about the M16/AR15 and ended up getting a NM AR15.  By far the most accurate rifle I've owned...but then I didn't have many rifles that should have been accurate.  In my hands it out shot my NM M1A...but I fault me, not the M1A.   A Marine gunny who happened to be at the range with a squad of recruits admired it and I offered to let him shoot it.  What a humbling experience.  Standing, he was making 2" groups at  100yds..in the center of the target.  Honestly, I could not help but think that the right thing to do would be to give it to him. 

Any way, I learned that in any kind of fighting rifle, a synthetic stock is better.   Maintains accuracy better and requires less maintenance. 

Also, a detachable magazine (that works) is better.  Allows quicker access to a large supply of ammo.

If this stock is well done, it offers both those advantages to the Mosin.

So, if the rifle is going to be viewed as a Fighter rather than a Queen,  it is the way to go.

 
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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2013, 08:47:09 AM »
Another thing that should be mentioned about this stock, is it requires the front sight to be removed in order to get the barrel band off without destroying it. If you never intend to return the rifle to it's original condition, you can simply cut it off with an abrasive wheel.

If you decide to remove the front sight, remember it only comes off one way because the dovetail is tapered. This is better explained in the video.

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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2013, 06:35:09 PM »
Damn your eye's! ;D

I don't have a moist and noisy.  Now I'm gonna have to rectify that, just cause that Archangel stock is so damned hot!

I think it'll be like #22 on the list.
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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2013, 10:33:55 PM »

I saw the first M16s arrive in our area and my first thought when I saw one was  "Mattel"... 
My first issued M-16 was made by Mattel..  ::)
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Re: For the Non-Traditional Mosin Nagant owner
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 12:25:22 PM »
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