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How Fast A State Can Change (Good Or Bad)
« on: July 17, 2013, 10:45:27 AM »
I just thought I would put this out there for discussion. Right after Newtown high capacity magazines disappeared from dealers shelves all over the country, as people rushed in a mad flurry to grab them up before a potential "ban", real or imaginary, could become law.

Now that all of Hussein's attempts at gun control have failed, people, (shooters & gun owners), are once again falling into a false sense of security. High capacity magazines are becoming available once again at very good prices and quantities. It seems gun owners have once again become complacent.

This in spite of the fact gun owners in Connecticut, New York, Colorado, and many counties of other states have all but forever lost their right to purchase these magazines, and some like New York, have or soon will, lose the right to even own them. People quickly forget just how fast the political climate can change in a state. Colorado is a perfect example. Arizona another, but in the opposite direction. Go back just a few years and Arizona was faced with Janet Napolitano as governor. She was rabidly anti gun. She was installing traffic cameras everywhere throughout the state. And wanted to install thousands more. She was quickly turning out to be Arizona's worst nightmare.

Then after Hussein was elected in 2008, he summoned her to head up the Department Of Homeland Security, and in a flash she was gone....Thank God. We now have Jan Brewer who is a tremendous supporter of the Second Amendment. She removed all of the speed cameras from our roads, and bolstered the Second Amendment even further by signing the right to carry, either concealed or open, without a permit.

Our change was for the better. However Colorado went the other way. They were once the bastion of guns, hunting, and freedom that accompanied all of it. But in came the liberals, along with their convoluted way of thinking, and now Colorado has some of the worst gun control laws in the country. The exact opposite of Arizona. The point being is don't get too comfortable with your states laws and government that currently exists. Because it can change for the worse much faster than you think. Especially when border states like Texas and Arizona have such a large influx of minorities in the form of illegal invaders moving in on a never ending basis. Most all of them will vote Democratic. That can change the political climate quicker than one could imagine. And it won't be for the better. Based on that I'm surprised high capacity magazines are still not flying off the shelves faster than they are. The right to buy this type of magazines could be in far more jeopardy then one might think.

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Re: How Fast A State Can Change (Good Or Bad)
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2013, 11:50:34 AM »
Yup, Colorado isn't the state it use to be. I have seen the political climate change, it started in the mid 80's when a plethora  of Californians mass exited Cali. and took up roots in CO.. The political climate has been on the down hill slide ever since and even though we aren't at rock bottom yet, it doesn't look like it will be getting any better anytime soon.
The 54 CO. Sheriffs that filed a law suit regarding magazine capacity had their day in court a few days ago. the judge presiding over the suit stated the suit can't go forward since it was made a law on July 1 & you can't file injunctions regarding something that is law. I will try and find the email I got and post it.
I agree that "We the People" are loosing our God given rights on a daily basis, the anti-2nd politicians started eroding it, it started as a trickle and has turned into a raging river. The fact is most voters do not take the time to think about what they are voting for, they usually vote with their feelings and usually only vote 1 agenda the lying politician(s) are stating & looking at the whole picture and the ramifications of such. A good example is CO's mag ban., the trickle down effect is MAGPUL leaving the state. Hence 200/300 people will be unemployed filing for unemployment, the state looses possible millions in tax revenue as well as the trickle down to other businesses and possibly the loss/decrease of the hunting population and that revenue. Shortly after Magpul stated they are out of here the intelligent law makers realized their screw up tried to fix it - too late! And now CO. suffers from it.
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I am perplexed as to why most minorities and others would be Dems and keep voting them in because the Dems have done NOTHING to help minorities advance. They disguise it all as, we Dems give you food stamps, welfare assistance, affirmative action, etc. But they still haven't advanced, they're still in the same rut, same poor neighborhoods. I believe that's what the Dems want.... to keep giving them a free ride, they get complacent and have no reason to better themselves. Why should they when they get all these assistance programs & don't have to work for things, it's handed to them free so they keep voting the Democrat way. Same goes for the illegal alien invasion, America what a country! When we get there we get more money, free education, free medical etc. all because of the Democrat party. VIVA USA!
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Re: How Fast A State Can Change (Good Or Bad)
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2013, 01:01:20 PM »
I would say very short time, depending on how bad an act of violance is.
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Re: How Fast A State Can Change (Good Or Bad)
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2013, 06:59:25 PM »
Well folks, you can always come to the Free State and enjoy real freedom. We aren't complacent here. We are just outnumbered two-to-one! For those who think those aren't bad odds, try it without semi-autos and even mid-cap mags. But we still are allowed to have thumb holes...in our baseball gloves.
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Re: How Fast A State Can Change (Good Or Bad)
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2013, 07:40:41 PM »
Florida is also a prime example of a state in transition, fighting it at the same time enabling it. The "pregnant chads, dangling chads" on the voter ballots here in Florida was not even the beginning.

I was born here in swamps of S. Florida in the late 60's; when you didn't have to know Spainish. Decades of transplants from New York, New England, and otherwise Democrat states put down roots here.

Florida used to be an open carry, no restriction CC state, now we are a "swing state"......It's damn sad. But very similar to Colorado's transformation.

Most of Florida, outside of major urban areas, are totaly "red". The urban areas, with minority populations, aka Debbie Wasserman Schultz comes to mind,... have turned the popular areas "blue".

It is all by design. Gerrymandering, re-districting, districts are all corrupt. Ask Allen West. 
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Re: How Fast A State Can Change (Good Or Bad)
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Re: How Fast A State Can Change (Good Or Bad)
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2013, 08:34:12 PM »
Florida is also a prime example of a state in transition, fighting it at the same time enabling it. The "pregnant chads, dangling chads" on the voter ballots here in Florida was not even the beginning.

I was born here in swamps of S. Florida in the late 60's; when you didn't have to know Spainish. Decades of transplants from New York, New England, and otherwise Democrat states put down roots here.

Florida used to be an open carry, no restriction CC state, now we are a "swing state"......It's damn sad. But very similar to Colorado's transformation.

Most of Florida, outside of major urban areas, are totaly "red". The urban areas, with minority populations, aka Debbie Wasserman Schultz comes to mind,... have turned the popular areas "blue".

It is all by design. Gerrymandering, re-districting, districts are all corrupt. Ask Allen West.  

TW is right on the money about Florida. I was born and currently live in N.E. Florida, one of the red places he mentions. But it is also the home of Harry Shorestein (rabidly anti-2A former State Attorney) and Angela Corey the State Attorney who replaced scary Harry. I have to tell you we could lose alot here if we aren't careful. I strongly suspect the Republican party of Florida is infiltrated with a bunch of Democrats and RINOs.

So what are we going to do about it? I am thinking really hard about getting involved in state politics. I'm not sure how far I want to go with it, but I am starting to get the idea if I want to preserve what we have and expand our rights, I might have to get right in the line of fire. That thought kind of scares me to be honest, but it's something I might have to do.

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Re: How Fast A State Can Change (Good Or Bad)
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2013, 08:56:23 PM »
But it is also the home of Harry Shorestein (rabidly anti-2A former State Attorney) and Angela Corey the State Attorney who replaced scary Harry.

Every time I see that woman with that phony "smile" on her face, I want to smack her across the chops!

 

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