Author Topic: Ok...tell me the attitude of police isn't getting way out of hand.  (Read 2766 times)

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Was police killing of 95-year-old necessary?

The old man, described by a family member as "wobbly" on his feet, had refused medical attention. The paramedics were called. They brought in the Park Forest police.

First they tased him, but that didn't work. So they fired a shotgun, hitting him in the stomach with a bean-bag round. Wrana was struck with such force that he bled to death internally, according to the Cook County medical examiner.


Yeah...there might be a bit more to the story that wasn't reported...but somehow I don't think "the rest of the story" is ever going to justify this action.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-08-03/news/ct-met-kass-0802-20130803_1_butcher-type-kitchen-knife-park-forest-police-taser

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Re: Ok...tell me the attitude of police isn't getting way out of hand.
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 06:53:25 AM »
Here is a link to a cast that speaks to this event. 

An excerpt from it's write up:

Why did cops kill this 95-year-old in walker? In the story it is said that police, “Tasered him and shot him with bean bag rounds – all because he adamantly refused to undergo high-risk surgery.”

Let’s just say that it takes absolutely no time at all for Brawdy to get REALLY fired up on this issue. As an ex-law enforcement officer, Brawdy knows the rules of the game and insists adamantly that there was a complete and utter breakdown of morals on the officers who decided that they had no other way to disarm the “two foot shoe horn” from the 95 year-old vet than to approach him in “SWAT gear,” taser him, and shoot him in the stomach with a bean bag gun.


http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/08/08/excessive-use-of-force-police-shoot-and-kill-95-year-old-wwii-vet-with-bean-bag-gun-episode-169/?inf_contact_key=b5467395560be1a34313bec5647f4b7479edd0e5fdd50a9af5c5e6c12e6a5539#
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
—Patrick Henry

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

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Re: Ok...tell me the attitude of police isn't getting way out of hand.
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 04:38:42 PM »
How dare you cast aspersions upon these most noble creatures of all mankind!!
RETREAT TO BUNKER!!!!
Think anything will come of it?? NOPE.....
I'd be truly thrilled to see these (fill in the blank) gutted with the shoe horn and left to die in the floor..
But oh noooo!!! There's more to it than is being reported. It's now what you think it is!!! The video doesn't tell the whole story...
There's not an adequate "emoticon" to plug in here...
With friends like these, who needs hallucinations!..

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Re: Ok...tell me the attitude of police isn't getting way out of hand.
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2013, 04:58:54 PM »
The same people defended the cops who shoot wheelchair bound amputee.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=20628.0

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Re: Ok...tell me the attitude of police isn't getting way out of hand.
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2013, 06:16:56 PM »
The attitude that The Mission and Our Safety comes above all else seems to be becoming more and more entrenched and wide spread.

"The Mission" is to protect the People, no matter how many of them we have to kill, maim, abuse and intimidate to do it.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

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Re: Ok...tell me the attitude of police isn't getting way out of hand.
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2013, 09:19:00 PM »
The attitude that The Mission and Our Safety comes above all else seems to be becoming more and more entrenched and wide spread.

"The Mission" is to protect the People, no matter how many of them we have to kill, maim, abuse and intimidate to do it.

Naw...the "Mission" is to be the man with the power. 

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Re: Ok...tell me the attitude of police isn't getting way out of hand.
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 04:51:45 PM »
Found this link to a topic that is related to this thread.

Law enforcement debate: Rise of the 'warrior cop'

The link discusses a book .  Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/happening-now/index.html#http://video.foxnews.com/v/2600635414001/law-enforcement-debate-rise-of-the-warrior-cop/?playlist_id=86919

From a description of the book:

But according to investigative reporter Radley Balko, over the last several decades, America’s cops have increasingly come to resemble ground troops. The consequences have been dire: the home is no longer a place of sanctuary, the Fourth Amendment has been gutted, and police today have been conditioned to see the citizens they serve as an other—an enemy.


http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Warrior-Cop-Militarization-Americas/dp/1610392116/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376330033&sr=1-1&ke



Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
—Patrick Henry

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

 

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