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Re: can this be?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2008, 06:05:24 PM »
I have come to believe that in the good old US of A anything "can be"!  So much of the time we don't want to believe it though!

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Re: can this be?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 06:48:56 PM »
Consider the source of the story... The "Pakistan Daily" website. Total propaganda B.S.
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Re: can this be?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2008, 08:13:22 PM »
Keep in mind this is a very popular story & theme in the Middle East.  It’s been used and played as our excuse for killing little Muslims and taking all their oil.  Given the source and that these conspiracy theories have been disputed by many different sources here and abroad, this is nothing more than Islamic propaganda.

For instance … the quote how we used the 9/11 attacks to justify a war that killed over “a million innocent Afghans and Iraqis” is a total bullshit number.  The part of why we didn’t intercept the planes that day is patently false.  I am going to check on this but I don’t recall that after since the collapse of the Soviet Union and given the Clinton military cutbacks that we were flying any CAP (combat air patrol) missions over CONUS.  This would explain why the AA and UA flights were not readily intercepted.  As well, I personally know that we did have an F-16 group airborne over MI on 9/11 conducting training that was ordered to “expedite” to PA to intercept UA 93 but did not get there in time.  

As well, these conspiracy theorists never mention Usama bin Laden’s tapes “praising Allah” for the brave pilots.  They never mention the martyrdom tapes that the pilots made.  

Two words ... total bullshit.  

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Re: can this be?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2008, 10:06:06 PM »
This would explain why the AA and UA flights were not readily intercepted.


Left out a word ... partially explain ... in my efforts to type and drink a cold Negra Modelo. 

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Also ... the F-16's that were in the air that day had no AA rockets and their cannons were "pinned" as typical in the training exercises they were involved with.  Not much they could have done except ram the plane had they met up with it. 

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Re: can this be?
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Re: can this be?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 01:39:36 PM »
I never believed any conspiracy theories on any topic until the day I saw this Pentagon Strike flash video. http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main
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Re: can this be?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 05:22:00 PM »
That pentagon and the other tower suddenly collapsing really bothers me.
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Re: can this be?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 05:24:48 PM »
Yeah, who ever heard of fire melting steel!  ::)
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Re: can this be?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 08:54:20 PM »
That pentagon and the other tower suddenly collapsing really bothers me.



As to Tower 7, it was not hit by any planes but it had sustained serious damage from the North Tower collapse.  There was a ten foot hole in the center of the building and ten to twenty stories long gash on the south side (all the conspiracy theorist show are shots from the north side).  As well, NIST reported that at least ten stories of the south side were “scooped out” from damage.  There were also fires in this building and very likely that the twenty-two large oil filled transformers between ground level and the 5th floor blew (which were likely the secondary explosions heard) .  This building had fires in it (other news footage confirmed this) and fire can collapse a building.   Not sure of a date but think it was prior to 9/11 that there was a skyscraper in Spain that fell due to fire (no plane crashes).  Keep in mind that a fire burning at 300º can weaken steel by 20%.  WTC 7 collapsed as it should have given what it went through.   

The conspiracy theories on the Pentagon are even easier to debunk given the number of witnesses that saw the plane hit it and that fact that there were a lot of airplane … and people … parts that were picked up.  Conspiracy theorists leave out some of the more important details of the attack such as how robust the Pentagon is (including blast resistant windows) and in particular, the actual size of the hole the plane made.  The actual hole before the collapse of the exterior façade was 75’ … not 12’ or 16’ like some of the conspiracy theorist want you to believe. 

When you dissect the “conspiracy theories” with scientific evidence they have all been debunked.  This then points to these theorist as either being loons OR that they are purposely putting out propaganda to make you doubt your government. 



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Re: can this be?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2008, 12:41:35 AM »
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I see what I see and I believe what I see..

So..........can this be?

Yes.. It can be. (in my opinion)
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