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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 02:10:55 AM »
so you can't disprove me is what you are saying.   you can draw parallels to every single "hot ticket issue"  its not about facts,  figures  or logic.  Its about "feelings".
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2013, 04:24:02 AM »
Quote from: TAB on September 25, 2013, 02:10:55 AM
so you can't disprove me is what you are saying.   you can draw parallels to every single "hot ticket issue"  its not about facts,  figures  or logic.  Its about "feelings".

No, I was trying to be nice and not call you an idiot.   
You can have your feelings, they don't trump anyone's rights.

As I said before: "The naivete in your statement speaks for itself."
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2013, 11:45:06 AM »
Emotions change......

FACTS DO NOT........ (even if misused or misinterpreted by idiots, they don't change).

Period.

Here endeth the lesson.
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2013, 02:17:25 PM »
Quote from: TAB on September 24, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
prove me wrong.

Easy enough.
6 million German Jews say giving up your arms is a really bad idea.
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2013, 05:12:42 PM »
THats just it, there are no real numbers that can prove anything.  I bet if you polled all death row inmates, and asked them thier favorite milkshake flavor.  And say 95% of them said chocolate.  Could you say that people that like chocolate milk shakes are more like to be killers? More likely to beconvicted?  Or just out of the sample taken 95% like chocolate milk shakes.   no one would argue chocolate milk shakes trun you into a killer.  But that happens all the time when it comes to guns.   they try to prove cuase and effect, but its a very complicated issue.
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2013, 09:14:01 PM »
WE are wrong for getting sucked off into areas the take away from the true issue, which is that we have a God given right to keep and bear arms, as observed by the Founding Fathers, and that right is protected by the Constitution of the United States.  However, we have an obligation to not let lies concerning the death counts and classifications of deadly weapons be spread unchecked.  In this case we have undeniable proof that firearms are not the deadliest thing on the streets even when used by criminals.

All that rambling is to tell TAB that this is important information to hold and to use in the proper debate.  We must not let anybody win the debate concerning rifles being the deadliest items on the street.
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2013, 07:26:00 AM »
We need to remember that sage, old advice:

A wise man never argues with a fool.

People watching may not be able to tell the difference.

How anyone feels may have relevance during courtship or therapy, but it has no place in a discussion of Constitutional rights.

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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2013, 08:04:09 AM »
I'm sorry  :-[

From now on I will try and leave TAB alone  :-[
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2013, 09:30:06 AM »
Since the liberals have pretty much taken God out of the equation,I would call it a "Natural right". Once they completely remove God from our society they will just say there are no God given rights .
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Re: Crime in the U.S. 2011 • Tables: Fists vs. Rifles
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2013, 08:22:28 PM »
They may try and amend God out of the Constitution, but He is throughout the founding documents that can not be amended.  Just like gun control, they will only get away with it if we let them.
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