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Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« on: October 02, 2013, 06:49:39 AM »
I am sure most forum members have seen what happened in NYC when a guy was driving his wife and 2 yr old when a group of 30 motorcycles started intimidating him (not sure of why, maybe the driver of the Rover instigated but doubtful.)  There was video and several stories from different perspectives are coming out.
I would like to get analysis of the situation and how it was handled, what would have given it a better ending and how the aftermath should be handled.  It is horrible what happened, the driver has stitches and a motorcyclist was run over and surely the wife and child are traumatized, but there are lessons here to be learned and I wanted to hear what Forum members and moderators thought and could share.
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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 08:42:28 AM »
Lesson number 1. Don't try to go up against an SUV or any car if you are on a bike!! That takes some serious retardation.

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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 10:49:52 AM »
When the guys were beating on his windows with there helmets I would have turned my front wheels to make a sharp right turn then put it in reverse and stomped the gas pedal and backed over them.

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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 11:32:06 AM »
I don't have all the details nor have I seen the full (probably) video. What I have seen doesn't seem too far off what I would have done.  An SUV is a much better defensive weapon than a gun. Plus, it's easier to justify. Run over them like he did. Once they caught up, do it again if necessary. Beating on my windows once I was stuck, would have likely resulted in extreme countermeasures. My objective would be to get out alive and quickly.

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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 12:04:12 PM »
From where the video on TV started what looks like a freeway/expressway, to where they cut the video - beating on the SUV in tied up traffic, I'm wondering how or why he got from A to B. I don't know if that freeway dead ends into street traffic or he took an exit.
 
If you are on a freeway with room to maneuver, stay on it! When stopped by heavy traffic, leave room in front. If it's not there, make some.
Demo derby types bash with the rear end as much as possible to stay running.
They may be able to get some swings at the windows but my car/truck will be anything but a still target.

Edit: If you decide to make room your insurance probably will not pay since it was intentional. 
My wife not getting her head bashed in is worth it IMHO. YMMV
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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 01:20:11 PM »
The SUV did make an exit...the video showed a couple of bikers a bit past the exit at the time.

Also, when the video starts, it shows a biker in front of the SUV, appearing to be going very slow and looking over his shoulder at the SUV.

The impression I got was that it was an attempt to delay or stop the SUV...what happened before that would be crucial in determining who precipitated the conflict. 

It was evident that the SUV did not want to be stopped or delayed

If I were in an SUV being pursued by a group of bikers, I'd be looking for a moderate traffic area on a one way street hand head down it the wrong way.  You risk some vehicle damage and maybe injury, but the bikers are facing serious injury or death.

Also a LOT of calls to police about the direction and circumstances would be going out.
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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 02:28:54 PM »
The video I originally saw on GMA looked like the SUV hit one of the bikers then tried to run .
If that's the case the bikers should have beat him worse.

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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 05:03:09 PM »
It looked like there was a biker in front of the SUV trying to make him stop. The driver of the SUV driver didn't want to stop and get jumped by a gang. I don't blame him.
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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 07:22:28 PM »
It has me thinking about a 30-round mag as a backup mag for the car gun.

Don't know what was going on inside the SUV but someone should have been on 911 vectoring the police to the scene.

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Re: Range Rover vs. Biker Gang in NYC - Analysis requested
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 07:33:31 PM »
Don't know what was going on inside the SUV but someone should have been on 911 vectoring the police to the scene.

They were, but hey it's NYC.  The police didn't get there fast enough.
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