Magpul... sales gimmick or sincere ideology?

[JC5123]

I work in trucking and I can tell you that moving to Gillette, WY would significantly increase their shipping costs.  The cost of getting raw materials shipped in would nearly double.  The cost of shipping finished product out would decrease slightly or stay the same, but the availability of trucks in that area is almost zero.

As far as shipping out finished product goes, a quick search shows me that there are only 43 available trucks in the entire northern half of WY/western SD right now.  Only 1 of them is within 100 miles and only 18 of them are within 250 miles.  That won't be good for getting your product to market. 

What about rail? There are MAJOR railways going through Gillette due to the coal mines being there. I would think that would be a cost efficient way to bring in resin.

[TAB]

THats only half of it.  Remember finished products are much more bulky.

[lhprop1]

What about rail? There are MAJOR railways going through Gillette due to the coal mines being there. I would think that would be a cost efficient way to bring in resin.

I'm sure rail is an option.  I was just giving a perspective from the trucking side of things.

[tombogan03884]

What about rail? There are MAJOR railways going through Gillette due to the coal mines being there. I would think that would be a cost efficient way to bring in resin.

Still need trucks to move supplies and product between depot and plant.

[TAB]

unless there is a track that runs too them.  A long time client was a printer( 7 color web, several offsets and tons of stichers)   they would drop off 2 rail cars be hind his build,  it would be empty the next day.  Crazy quantiys of paper.

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[billt]

Remember something. When Mag-Pul announced this, their products were selling faster than they could make them. Faster than any time in their history. P-Mags were out of stock just about everywhere. The places that had them were selling them for scalpers prices. Assault Weapons Ban fear was everywhere, as state after state announced new gun control measures, most of which included magazine capacity limitations. The fact is IF they are going to move, they're not going to do it at a time when business has never been better. It would be plain stupid to do so. Too much profit would be lost.

Now supply is quickly catching up with demand. I'm seeing P-Mags pretty much everywhere, and with very good prices attached. Even the 7.62 P-Mags are in stock now at a lot of places, again with low prices attached. To move they would need to stockpile and warehouse a very large supply of product to hold them over, until they can get equipment moved, up and running again. That is costly to have a lot of dead money tied up in product, while the entire company makes a very costly move.....If they even do. My guess is they won't.

This is all about principal. There is no way the Colorado legislature would not allow them to produce and sell their product where it is legal. Mag-Pul doesn't have much to gain here, and a lot to lose if they in fact make this move. It's one thing to make a broad statement like that. It's another to act on it. Especially after they find out what the actual cost will be.

[scottr]

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[1]This is all about principal.

[2]There is no way the Colorado legislature would not allow them to produce and sell their product where it is legal.

1-Yes it is. Magpul said that. You said it. Doesn't sound like there is much disagreement there. Principal ≠ Profit. Sometimes they happen at the same time, sometimes not.

2-What? I don't understand this sentence. I am sometimes smart like rock, so can you explain this to me? Most Magpul magazines are now illegal in Colorado. They make other things that aren't illegal in Colorado. What am I missing and not understanding in your sentence?

[billt]

What? I don't understand this sentence. I am sometimes smart like rock, so can you explain this to me? Most Magpul magazines are now illegal in Colorado. They make other things that aren't illegal in Colorado. What am I missing and not understanding in your sentence?

They can produce them there. They just can't sell to their customers there. That won't change regardless of where they move.

[JLawson]

No doubt about it... they produce fine products.  However, they are not the only game in town.  Many people purchased P-mags - during the frenzy and since - just because of their hard-line stance.  If they do not move within a reasonable amount of time then they will have quite a PR mess on their hands.  People have long memories when it comes to lies, deceit,  and dishonesty... I still have friends who won't buy a S&W because of the Clinton-era deal.  I'm not saying that Magpul was disingenuous when making their announcement to move.  I'm just saying that many current customers will become ex-customers if Magpul backs away from their promise.

[TAB]

i disagree with people having long memorys, some do, but most don't.