Christie

[Timothy]

The media may have Christie as the preeminent darling of the GOP at the moment but we're a long ways away from the election!  Give them a good hard slap in 2014 and we might just see a prominent "something" arise out of the ashes.  Regardless of the race in 2016, the president is only one third of the equation...give the DNC another four to eight years and THEY WILL OWN THE SUPREME COURT AS WELL!!!!!!!

Either way, after sitting back and reading this thread for the last week, I'm pretty much convinced I have no other choice.  With the exception of a few states, my vote will mean absolutely nothing but cast it I will, none the less...

[billt]

Tim, don't get yourself too down. Obama Care is getting worse by the day. It is certain to get worse.....Much worse, as time goes on. Not a day goes by there isn't another horror story. You could see a Republican rout next November. I'm not saying they'll win, but rather the Dems will hand it to them on a silver platter, the way this is going. This is effecting EVERYONE, or else soon will. If you get 50 million people with their health care cancelled, and can't afford the alternative, they'll want the Dems heads on sticks!

[Solus]

I had no intention of starting WW3 when I started this post.  Basically, I just wanted to vent about the fact that the liberal news media is picking our candidates.  They have the last two elections, and are already working on the next.  Chris Christie is not someone I can vote for, period.  I am a card carrying Republican, and have been since before I could vote!  I was too young to vote for Reagan, but I sure as hell would have if I could have.  Have voted Republican in every election since, except when the first Bush stabbed us in the back and by executive order signed the very first assault weapon ban, and renounced his NRA membership (remember that?) I voted for Peroit in that election, and am not ashamed to say it.  (I did vote for him the first time he ran.)  All that being said, I stand by my original post.  I have never voted for a Democrat, and never will, but I honestly fail to see the difference between a Democrat and Chris Christie.  After all, Bloomberg ran as a Republican, and he is the most anti-gun SOB in the country!

Didn't start WWIII, Gunman....thread drifted a bit into a good discussion.  

Different view were expressed and supported with reasoned arguments in a civil discussion.  My feeling is most of us can see the truth in part of the other sides argument but think it more useful to go with the the one in which they see the most hope of a favorable outcome.

Not like a discussion about whether the Glock or 1911 is the better sidearm where the Glock is clearly superior.    At least the lady members of Team Glock are more attractive.

[Timothy]

Tim, don't get yourself too down. Obama Care is getting worse by the day. It is certain to get worse.....Much worse, as time goes on. Not a day goes by there isn't another horror story. You could see a Republican rout next November. I'm not saying they'll win, but rather the Dems will hand it to them on a silver platter, the way this is going. This is effecting EVERYONE, or else soon will. If you get 50 million people with their health care cancelled, and can't afford the alternative, they'll want the Dems heads on sticks!

Bill,

I've lived in MA since '97...I don't get too down, I get motivated and send money to the local GOAL to push my agendas!  My vote may mean very little but my voice is still heard...  

I too have seen the governor of MA taught Romneycare as "working" here when in fact, without Federal money, it falls flat on it's face.  We're leaning on the edge of insolvency in MA as it relates to social healthcare.  If that's a basis of OdumbassCare, we're well and truly fucked and you're prophecy of Obamacare failing miserably has already been predicted!

 

[tombogan03884]

Neither, Bush signed any AWB's .
That was Clinton .
Bush Sr DID close the machine gun registry, but it was the broken "No new taxes" pledge that that shifted support to Perot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

The expired Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, commonly known as the Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), was a subsection of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.

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[Timothy]

Neither, Bush signed any AWB's .
That was Clinton .
Bush Sr DID close the machine gun registry, but it was the broken "No new taxes" pledge that that shifted support to Perot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

The expired Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, commonly known as the Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), was a subsection of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.

Yea, that's my recollection of history as well...  GHWB left office on January 20, 1993, about noonish...

[gunman42782]

Sorry guys, but I remember it vividly.  He didn't sign a bill, he had an executive order banning the importation of certain assault weapons.  He was the reason I became a Life Member of the NRA.  This is a clip from Fox News:

In 1989, then-President George H.W. Bush halted the importation of some semi-automatic firearms that could be considered “assault weapons” under existing legal authority provided by the 1968 Gun Control Act, under the determination that they were not “particularly suitable for or readily adapting to sporting purposes.”

[Timothy]

Sorry guys, but I remember it vividly.  He didn't sign a bill, he had an executive order banning the importation of certain assault weapons.  He was the reason I became a Life Member of the NRA.  This is a clip from Fox News:

In 1989, then-President George H.W. Bush halted the importation of some semi-automatic firearms that could be considered “assault weapons” under existing legal authority provided by the 1968 Gun Control Act, under the determination that they were not “particularly suitable for or readily adapting to sporting purposes.”

I'm not saying I don't believe you Gunman but I just browsed the 166 Exec Orders of GHW Bush and could not find that order.  It may well have been buried within the title of another order though!

[tombogan03884]

Sorry guys, but I remember it vividly.  He didn't sign a bill, he had an executive order banning the importation of certain assault weapons.  He was the reason I became a Life Member of the NRA.  This is a clip from Fox News:

In 1989, then-President George H.W. Bush halted the importation of some semi-automatic firearms that could be considered “assault weapons” under existing legal authority provided by the 1968 Gun Control Act, under the determination that they were not “particularly suitable for or readily adapting to sporting purposes.”

Link please.

[billt]

In 1989, then-President George H.W. Bush halted the importation of some semi-automatic firearms that could be considered “assault weapons” under existing legal authority provided by the 1968 Gun Control Act, under the determination that they were not “particularly suitable for or readily adapting to sporting purposes.”

I believe this is when he banned the importation of the Chinese Poly Tech AK-47's, and many of the Norinco guns, including the M1-A clone. It was old man Bush, and not Clinton.

"Even so, sales were encouraging until they were banned in 1989 by the Bush ban following the mass murder in Stockton, Calif., where the gunman used an AK-47 to kill all six of his victims, in addition to injuring 29."

Read more: http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/04/16/chinese-kalashnikov-the-poly-tech-aks-762/#ixzz2lJTWZW8s