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tombogan03884

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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2013, 05:10:17 PM »
We need to repeat 1813.
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2013, 06:12:01 PM »
Did we ever thank them for that?
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2013, 06:19:21 PM »
Wasn't it 1814?
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2013, 08:13:17 PM »
It was, but 1813 is close enough for government work.
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2013, 08:07:09 AM »
When democrats were threatening to filibuster and  the Republican threatened to change the rules and go nuclear back in 2005, Senator Obama had this to say in favor of the filibuster

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The American people sent us here to be their voice. They understand that those voices can at times become loud and argumentative, but they also hope that we can disagree without being disagreeable.

What they don't expect is for one party - be it Republican or Democrat - to change the rules in the middle of the game so that they can make all the decisions while the other party is told to sit down and keep quiet.

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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2013, 08:13:08 AM »
Quote from: alfsauve on November 23, 2013, 08:07:09 AM
When democrats were threatening to filibuster and  the Republican threatened to change the rules and go nuclear back in 2005, Senator Obama had this to say in favor of the filibuster


And this surprises you from the king of duplicity?
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2013, 12:04:08 PM »
Quote from: Timothy on November 23, 2013, 08:13:08 AM
And this surprises you from the king of duplicity?

AKA: Sir Flip of Flop.
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2013, 12:50:12 PM »
The other side of the Flip-Flop coin is that back then it was the Republicans trying to end the use of the Filibuster.

They are not in a position to honorably complain about it now.
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2013, 12:59:54 PM »
Quote from: Solus on November 23, 2013, 12:50:12 PM
The other side of the Flip-Flop coin is that back then it was the Republicans trying to end the use of the Filibuster.

They are not in a position to honorably complain about it now.

Oh, I know..... this is nothing new.
ALL politicians fall into the flip-flop category at one time or another.......some are just better at it than others.

The political system needs a purge.......but the voters with the common sense to know it, do not have the adequate numbers to do it via the ballot box any longer.
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Re: Filibuster Rules Changed??
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2013, 01:10:40 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington

 On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a British force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington City and set fire to many public buildings. The facilities of the U.S. government, including the White House and U.S. Capitol, were largely destroyed.[4
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