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Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« on: November 26, 2013, 04:06:39 PM »
From Allen West's site:


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Retired generals critical of Obama say “peaceful civil uprising not out of the question”

We who have served in uniform took an oath, “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”

Those who truly believe in and live this oath realize there is no statute of limitations on this commitment to our beloved Republic. True military servants will stand guard for America as long as there is breath in their lungs. While in uniform we know we must follow the orders of our superiors, as long as they do not violate any moral standard.

However, once out of uniform, we have more freedom to express our thoughts, perspectives, and insights. Towards that end, two retired U.S. generals, Army General Paul E. Vallely and Air Force Brigadier General Charles Jones, have created a citizens’ commission called America’s Provisional Leadership Council to scrutinize Obama administration actions on national security and economic issues.

According to WND, General Vallely has already called for the resignations of President Obama, Vice President Biden, and senior Congressional leadership. In calling for the forced resignations of Obama and the leadership of Congress, Vallely outlined suggestions for nationwide rallies and said a peaceful “civil uprising is still not out of question.”

“Our federal government continues down the path of destroying America,” Vallely said. “Americans must now stand up and put America back on the right track.”

Along with several other prominent senior military officers and former CIA officers, I serve on a group called the Citizens Commission on Benghazi, sponsored by Accuracy in Media (AIM) founder Roger Aronoff. I believe we shall see more grassroots citizen activism to stand against the growing political elitism in America.

Generals Vallely and Jones are focused on raising up a new generation of honest, selfless leaders, which is the focus of the Allen West Guardian Fund as well, especially military conservatives. Vallely and Jones say they’ve developed workable solutions to “help solve and fix what has without question stunted our nation’s ability to clearly, legally and peacefully function as a constitutional republic.”

I am proud to know that we have former military leaders who still seek to honor their oath to our Republic and advocate ensuring the “new birth of freedom” is not lost for future generations. I know MG Vallely very well and he is an impeccable Army leader. I salute you Sir, and offer a hearty “Airborne.”

Do you think there’s a groundswell building in America? I certainly hope so.



http://allenbwest.com/2013/11/retired-generals-critical-obama-say-peaceful-civil-uprising-question/
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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 06:32:08 AM »
Do you think there’s a groundswell building in America? I certainly hope so.

I hope so to.  I have no faith in the opposition party (i.e. republicans) to actually fix anything.  The only hope is the American people. 

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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 02:23:00 PM »
After 80+ years of communist indoctrination in education, and bribing minorities on the tax payers $ I don't have any faith in "the people" either .

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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 02:40:20 PM »
Never forget that 50% of all people are below average intelligence. And they vote.
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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 09:03:20 AM »
After 80+ years of communist indoctrination in education, and bribing minorities on the tax payers $ I don't have any faith in "the people" either .
It's logical.
Whichever one begets the other, it's sickeningly obvious that if we were to somehow drive the rats out of Washington, there would be no "Saint Gun0Guys Day" to commemorate the occasion. That's the part that breaks my heart so badly..
National Revival must be, before "life" can return to the nation..

I'm still not adverse to the idea of starting over, be it CONUS or somewhere else.. We're already "Balkanized" though. We couldn't do it together.. We've already demonstrated that the atheists won't countenance a Christians voice, if Christian it be.
Divided, we fall..
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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2013, 10:55:03 PM »
"Never forget that 50% of all people are below average intelligence. And they vote."

They may vote, but they can't seem to feed, clothe or house themselves without Government help. While I don't look forward to it, if it comes to a fight for the survival of the country, I will gladly take the odds of the strong, intelligent, warrior class against the dependent, addicted, and ignorant. I am afraid that the days of the "ballot box" as a way out of this mess may be nearing an end, and there are many who will not sit by and let them vote us all into oblivion.
Good on these men for giving a credible voice to the realities that we face. While Piers Morgan and Martin Bashir may have cart blanch from their treasonous employers to discredit productive Americans, they don't have the stones or the brains to take on career warriors.   >:(

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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2013, 07:59:20 AM »
Uprisings always seem to turn ugly in third world nations and we're beginning to look like a third world nation.  I'd hate to see an uprising because of the potential for a peaceful uprising to become ugly.  More reason for me to live in the country away from problems and to stay that way.  

The cities, where for all intents and purposes the progressive/totalitarian/communist live, would be a horrible place to live with a family.  That 1/2 or so below average who probably don't have two cents to rub together because they pissed it away for cigarettes or beer instead of food, etc., may very well join up and strike out along with the militant progressive/totalitarian/communist at the others with horrible results.  Look at what militants like Bill Ayers did and what they are on record as having said.  To see that kind of horror and suffering where one clear group of people is at odds with another group with violence on their mind should be unthinkable.

Cities are uber vulnerable and with a widespread uprising, which I would bet would turn ugly in a hot summer, the suffering and loss of life within them could be immense for the people who live there.  In a peaceful uprising gone bad, I think that basic services will suspended by local authorities to calm people down by giving them something else to think about...like where do I get the next drink of water.  Look at Katrina....even the city's LEO's turned for themselves and their own families and to heck with the people.  Not to mention all of the stories of law enforcement brought in zeroing out people at the end of scoped rifle barrel and the vigilante justice in the Superdome...none of which was ever prosecuted.

A few days without electricity and water and there would be horrible casualties of innocent people.  So much for the information highway and security when the batteries run down after 3 or 4 days.  If local authorities were to take away electricity and water for a few days to get things under control, when they turned it back on the citizens would become quite pacified I think....but the cost to get to that point would be horrible.  It is generally published that people only have a few days food at home and without running water pretty much everyone would get thirsty in a few hours...not to mention the hygiene issue after 2 or 3 days.  I bet most city dwellers don't have the knowledge or the tools to bury their own stools bringing into the picture a specter of disease on an unknown scale.  End of uprising.

Worse than that, if militants destroyed a couple of transformers and water lines it would be weeks or months before services may be restored if it were happening across the country.  The cities would become literal cesspools of hell...not somewhere I'd want to be.  We are blessed as a nation that muslim or militant progressive terrorists have not hit our major cities like NY, LA, Chicago, Boston, etc., like this.  You'll never see me anywhere near a city if "peaceful" uprisings begin in earnest across this nation, my behind will be close to home where I'm safe in comparison.

I think even a peaceful uprising would be a bad thing because of the potential for horror on a terrible scale if it escalated into something bad.  We all have family and friends in the cities.  The innocent could suffer horribly against angry mobs and very few would ever be held accountable for crimes committed....which should be unthinkable in a nation where the rule of law exists....but then we have that Katrina example where we see how thin the veneer of civilization really is.

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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2013, 02:50:29 PM »
Rastus, the stuff you mention will be done by both sides.
Various "supplies, food, water, electricity, etc, are considered legitimate targets.
What will be nasty are the massacres that will be carried out by both sides.

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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2013, 07:57:26 PM »
After 80+ years of communist indoctrination in education, and bribing minorities on the tax payers $ I don't have any faith in "the people" either .
I'm with ya on this one. What with the Millenniums, the 20+/- generation that's out there, they believe they should be entitled to all kinds of benefits for FREE ie: the Gubment will take care of them. The milenniums feel they are entitled to a CEO pay wage when they graduate college/when they enter the work force, they believe that they don't have to "earn" their living. The Gov. will take care of me.

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Re: Peaceful Civil Uprising Not Out of the Question
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 07:43:10 AM »
The masses out there are becoming so dumb, and feel so entitled, I doubt that any "uprising" would be "peaceful". Look at society in general. Friday we had store employees trampled to death. Women punching, pulling hair and kicking each other right in the isles of stores. Over what? $3.00 off a waffle iron?

 There is no way these idiots could do anything "peacefully". About the best you could hope for would be a military overthrow, with the leaders governing from a strict Constitutional platform. Things will have to get far worse than they are now for that to happen. Christ, now we've got city police arming themselves with MRAP vehicles. There will be nothing "peaceful" about any of what's ahead. The best you could hope for is to live as far away from minorities when it does happen. Look at what they turned the Superdome into in just 48 hours. The minorities damaged it far worse than Katrina ever could have.

 

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