Snowden

[billt]

Snowden is right that we will see a generation that has never known privacy because we accept so many intrusions.

It isn't a matter of "accepting it". There is no way around it. You have no choice in the matter, regardless of how, or where you live. Just ask Bin Laden. You're going to see it, and be forced to accept it no matter what. Technology makes it possible, and the government is simply using the technology, and putting it into play. Electronics, computers, cell phones, flash drives the size of a BIC lighter that can hold thousands of documents, cheap small drones equipped with listening devices and cameras, On Star that can tell most anyone where you go and what you do. Electronic banking and credit cards that tell most anyone what you buy when you get there.

This type of intervention was inevitable as technology moves forward at the speed of light. Hell, it was the government that set up the GPS system for the military, then decided they would let the citizens "use it". We then complain when we drop $600.00 for a top of the line Garmin, and suspect the government might be watching where we go with it. Gee ya' think? This stuff is all around us, and has been for years. It's only going to get worse, (or better), as time goes on. Personal privacy is gone. All of this is unavoidable. All idiots like Snowden did was awaken the dead. It doesn't matter because they'll bitch and moan for 5 minutes, then go right back to sleep.

[tombogan03884]

You can not include Julian Assange in the same group as Snowden and Manning.
Snowden and Manning violated laws, rules, conditions of employment.
Assange, being a foreign national, didn't violate anything.
Secondly, (this is just a thought ) where do we get an "expectation of privacy" in information that has left our control ?
We write our most personal information then expect it to be "secure" when left in an unattended tin box on the side of the street.
The fact is that the Genie, in the form of technology, is out of the bottle and if you want privacy it's OUR responsibility to take actions that provide it.
Expecting "them" to do something about it is how we wound up with foodstamps being the #1 employer in America.
American's demand that "they" do something about privacy and security, well, they did.

[Tyler Durden]

I am curious about this intetview Shia Lebeof did on the Jay Leno show:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNRgP4FVDzA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Was he just hyping up the story of the recorded phone conversation to sell a movie?

[TAB]

i think the only reason he did what he did the way he did it was for money and fame.

[GeorgeCook]

Here's a link to an interview Snowden did with a German journalist:


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f93_1390833151#uQ2Ohe7q6easY0OG.99

It's very fascinating and I think we all need to hear what he says, no matter what you think of him.

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