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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2008, 09:08:11 PM »
HOORAY,  I'm celebrating, I did say a prayer at 8:50 am and as usual the big man came through.  ;D

Everyone enjoy this moment, and tommorrow take a big breath, Exhale and start to work again, weeding out the Chicago's, Morton Grove, San Francisco's and the archaic Sullivan law. >:(

The reply's from the Mayor of DC and the police chief show how they still think they are in control. No Semi auto's, well if they can decide that, I guess they can say, only single shot handguns are allowed??? Maybe a caliber restriction, .22 CB caps, so it won't penetrate walls.  I hope the new Plaintiffs can get the same Federal Judge who stood by Heller to start with.  ???

I read Mayor Daley is puffing out his chest. Too bad, so sad. :'(

Now what about the Gun Control act of 1968, I could not find the exact statute, but it said that no lists could be compiled of gun owners. Is that not what DC is doing? " We just want to know where the guns are ", Right?

I can't remember all my conressional bills now, but I hope this strikes down the act, ( that was  retro active and violates the EX POST FACTO clause ) of domestic violence, the one where if you had ever been in a fight and the police have a record, you can never own a gun again.

Everyone have a good night tonight, and lets get some more going tomorrow. ;)

I'm with all of you, I wish Chuck and Neal were here with us to see it. I'm sure they are nodding in content to each other, along with Bob Foss and Harlon Carter.


Right on and AMEN!

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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2008, 09:19:20 PM »
Good news for sure, but still just one battle in a war.


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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2008, 09:51:27 PM »
I'm with all of you, I wish Chuck and Neal were here with us to see it. I'm sure they are nodding in content to each other, along with Bob Foss and Harlon Carter.

+1 With one more, Colonel Jeff Cooper. Somewhere, somehow, we are being given a nod, and from him that's enough to Fight the Good Fight" and keep going.

"George F. Will opines in Newsweek that Americans are a nation of cowards and shirkers, observing that we have surrendered our streets - as well as our dignity - to the goblins. He points out that, concerned with street crime, we choose to throw money at it rather than to fight. Money is not the answer. More cops cannot help. They can't be everywhere at once. More prisons cannot help. Modern prisons don't scare the bad guy. The only thing that can help is will - the will to fight back. If we have truly lost that, there is little hope for our civilization."
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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2008, 10:44:34 PM »
 I had to go to the collage today and get some CEU's for my med license and while on a break I got a chance to  see the news about the Supreme Courts decision on Heller vs. D.C. I must admit that I got a llitle loud when I heard the good news but soon got settled down so I could hear the rest of it.Like the part that they could decided what type you can own or did I just hear wrong?
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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2008, 11:01:38 PM »
 It doesn't get any better than this. I've just lived long enough to witness history.
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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2008, 09:34:59 AM »
Mistake on Gura's part?

From what I've gathered about this, our folks did extensive planning on this doing what they thought would have the best chance to succeed.  I believe they coordinated with other groups who were seeking to file cases that might detract from or jeapordize the Heller case.

From what I heard, their strategy went way beyond this single case, setting the stage for the future.

Any one with concrete information?
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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #86 on: June 27, 2008, 10:23:05 AM »
Judicial Monarchy!

Only a 5 to 4 decision?

This wasn't about the constitution or case law. This was purely about political ideology. We have seen too many 5 to 4 decisions to think that the justices are concerned about anything but politics. There are 4 conservative judges and 4 liberal judges, and they are way too predictable about how they will side. Kennedy is the only middle of the road judge that is capable of being impartial. As he goes, so goes the decisions of the court. 

This makes me sick. This was a clear cut constitutional decision to be made (forget about the crime statistics and whats best for the citizens). Only a 5 to 4 decision? We are truly living in a Judicial Monarchy
You hit the mark there! 5 to 4??? Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the decision but this should have been a slam dunk not a Oh My God! That was close!!!!
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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #87 on: June 27, 2008, 10:29:10 AM »
Solus, check this article out from 2003. Co-ordinated is a very polite way to phrase it. I am not trying to bad mouth the NRA or Alan Gura, just providing a full context. The NRA basically got told to shove it, but you can read that in the link and draw your own conclusions....

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32474

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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
« Reply #88 on: June 27, 2008, 10:33:28 AM »
Solus, check this article out from 2003. Co-ordinated is a very polite way to phrase it. I am not trying to bad mouth the NRA or Alan Gura, just providing a full context. The NRA basically got told to shove it, but you can read that in the link and draw your own conclusions....

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32474

I don't really think they wanted the NRA to stay away as much as they just wanted to keep it simple.


From the Article:
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allowing the Seegars plaintiffs to join this litigation would substantially and unnecessarily complicate what is presently a straightforward single-issue case.

"By adding a variety of extraneous claims to a case that is nearly ready for summary disposition, the Seegars plaintiffs would impede this court in resolving the narrow issue presented in the Parker litigation and substantially prejudice the Parker plaintiffs by delaying resolution of their claim,"


Even though it was a 5 to 4 decision it was essentially a slam dunk. Over complicating things might have resulted in Kennedy going the other way.
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Re: DC v. Heller Decision
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