IT'S ALL ONE 'WAR' PBS SHOW TO ARGUE ALLIES AS BAD AS NAZIS

[tombogan03884]

Tom,
Please pardon my inability to adequately express what I was trying to say.  The smartest guy in  the room thing was for the thesis fella, not you.  I live in a college town (I friend and I refer to it as Berkley East) and come into contact with a lot of the smartest guy types explaining just about anything you can imagine.  So my fuse is a bit short when I come across it.  Sorry.  And thanks to everyone for a great place to discuss and vent.

God protect us from the PhD "experts"   

Our soldiers today have to exercise more restraint than at any other time of combat. We use smart bombs to limit civilian losses, strategic "surgical" strikes to limit "collateral damage" When the Greatest Generation was involved, domestic car production stopped, victory gardens were grown, new tires were hard to get, scrap metal collectors went through neighborhoods, and we had the support of the MSM.  Bulk food items were in essence "rationed" to keep the troops fed.

The bottom line is we carpet bombed much of Occupied Europe and Japan, because:

"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it."General MacArthur

Did civilians die? You bet. As many wiser than me have stated "War is Hell"  The US military today has shown more restraint in this war on terror than at any other time in history. Unlike the cowardly suicide bombers, and one's that fight  from a schoolhouse full of women and children.

We can't fight a total war anymore, we can't turn cities into flaming wreckage. Denigrating a country into surrender doesn't work anymore.  There's always the UN approach, right up there with appeasement. Look how Iran is listening to the UN.

That's another thread entirely.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)

"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank GOD for the United States Marine Corps."
Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945

He may have been an abrasive, pompuos, SOB, But he was also a genius, it seems those 3 traits often go together. Now if we could just explain this seemingly basic fact to our politicians.

[gunman1911]

Hey Tom I got that PhD psychologicaly  Disturbed

[Ron J]

"Personaly I think the most horrible "Crime" commited by the Allied high command was the suppression of information about the "Leopouldville"
Many members of the American Panther (9th?) division died when their troop ship was torpedoed during a Christmas eve rehearsal for the invasion by a U boat that should NOT have been able to penetrate the destroyer screen. For decades US and British Officials denied it happened, Families did not know the true circumstances of their loved ones deaths until a couple years ago. THATs a crime."


Tom ... was that what they later said was a "training accident" where 5,000 died?   

[tombogan03884]

Yes, Some accident