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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2008, 06:04:40 PM »
Great , thank you.
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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 12:36:07 PM »
It's a nice story, but it's just made up like a fairy tale.
http://www.snopes.com/military/flagfold.asp
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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2008, 03:30:58 PM »
jumbofrank, thanks for the info but bursting our bubble about the 13 folds was not necessary IMHO.

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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2008, 04:11:44 PM »
To some people, a '57 Chevy is another old car, and that's fine. To others, it is their memories of youth, adventure, and passage into adult life. It means a lot.

So to with the flag. She has always been more that cloth and dye. We are free to add or detract as each sees fit. Some burn her, some cherish her. She will persevere. I see my dad, on the USS Omaha, during WWII, standing next to the Captain under that flag. Love that picture. "The Folds" may be an add on, but it's okay to add whatever you want, or ignore her altogether. It's about Freedom.

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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 10:03:27 PM »
If it is not true, then let's make it so, Forward this to your congressman, and Senators, and ask that it be made so. There are many ceremonies concerning the American flag, this should be utmost. It's too bad we can't make desecration a penalty. At the least, whe can make it an honor to do it right. I think this is very right.
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Re: the 13 folds
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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2008, 09:37:13 AM »
To me 13 folds is not just another fairy tale. It speaks of pride of our country's symbol for freedom won from the brave willing to defend it with tier lives, to those who have sacrificed so much and to those who are willing to stand up and go forth into the deepest of harms way, to live and remember the horrors for rest of their lives. I have the utmost respect for those not to play into a "fairy tale" and to show my pride in being a American and honoring them the best way possible from my heart and sole.

Those who have sacrificed so much are the reason you may have you opinion even tho I do not agree with it and will with hold my opinion of your opinion. As i feel this is not the place.
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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2008, 11:12:52 AM »
It's a nice story, but it's just made up like a fairy tale.
http://www.snopes.com/military/flagfold.asp

Don't believe everything you read on Snopes . On this one as with the previously mentioned JD Pendry entry they are full of crap.

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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2008, 12:02:05 PM »
I't a shame that non Christians have to skip a few folds in the tribute. 

Of course folks of several religions cannot pledge allegiance to their flag without paying tribute to a deity in which they do not belive.

Freedom OF religion also entails freedom FROM religion.



 
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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2008, 08:51:17 PM »
I't a shame that non Christians have to skip a few folds in the tribute. 

Of course folks of several religions cannot pledge allegiance to their flag without paying tribute to a deity in which they do not belive.

Freedom OF religion also entails freedom FROM religion.



 

It still comes down regardless of political view, upbringing, religion, or any other factor, there WILL BE a fundamental level of Respect to those that the 13 folds "matter". Regardless of whether its etched in stone somewhere or not. People take a personal offense to those that lack a common trait of respect.. Be polite, Be Prepared, Give hoot don't pollute, open a door for a lady you never met, c'mon,...

Sorry jumbofrank, choice of words was callous and uncalled for; IMHO.  I hope you can understand,...



I hope you can look at this photo for 15 seconds, and realize, the "13 folds" will never be a fairy tale to this young man.

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Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: the 13 folds
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2008, 03:54:49 PM »
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