New gun law sets stage for airport showdown

[BigSaucy]

[OK, Ron, every one else, Is TAB an anti gun bigot, Troll ?  Or is he just a person who has relitively twisted veiws on property rights

Ok here's my 2 cents...

Maybe I just hate piling on 'cause I do find some of his post infuriating, but I haven't seen anything in his posts that suggest he's a communist or anti-American for that matter. But who knows?

I don't think TAB is an anti gun bigot.  He may be a troll but probably not though he does seem a bit cantankerous at times. He has clearly thought out opinions about what property rights mean to him. On some he has a point on many I think he goes too far on a few I think he's just plain wrong.

1 I don't like people that don't respect others wishes/ break the law  then claim thier shit does not stink.

agree

2  I don't like people that use a law designed to help LEO for ones own intrests

disagree

3 I beleave property owners/mangers have every right to restrict weapons that come on thier property

partially agree... on premises agree in public parking lot disagree

4  employers have every  right to restrict weapons ( also see above)

agree - on their premises.

5 I beleave people that go looking for confrontations while expressing a privilage they have, should not have that privlage.

disagree. This is America isn't it?

[Pathfinder]

1 I don't like people that don't respect others wishes/ break the law  then claim thier shit does not stink.

Depends on the wishes of the other, and if the local law is superseded by state law

2  I don't like people that use a law designed to help LEO for ones own intrests

If it's a law applicable to all, then no problem. having everyone follow it And since when did we create an uber-class of LEOs who have "special" rights and privileges?

3 I beleave property owners/mangers have every right to restrict weapons that come on thier property

True, unless such restrictions violate local or state laws. The law prevails.

4  employers have every  right to restrict weapons ( also see above)

See answer to #3, applies here too

5 I beleave people that go looking for confrontations while expressing a privilage they have, should not have that privlage.

Wrong, liberty is the essence of life in this country.

BTW, ND got rid of the extensive testing requirements, just pass a test on the law. All for the better, since those tests can be used by the LEOs to deny citizens their rights.

[Hazcat]

BTW, ND got rid of the extensive testing requirements, just pass a test on the law. All for the better, since those tests can be used by the LEOs to deny citizens their rights.

Path,

What tests are you talking about?

[TAB]

Depends on the wishes of the other, and if the local law is superseded by state law

If it's a law applicable to all, then no problem. having everyone follow it And since when did we create an uber-class of LEOs who have "special" rights and privileges?

True, unless such restrictions violate local or state laws. The law prevails.

See answer to #3, applies here too

Wrong, liberty is the essence of life in this country.

BTW, ND got rid of the extensive testing requirements, just pass a test on the law. All for the better, since those tests can be used by the LEOs to deny citizens their rights.

what about places where firearms would be dangerous to personal and/or equipment...  Should people still beloud to carry in those places where having a ferous metals near by could cost hundreds of thousands in damage?  If so then  who pays for the damage?

[Hazcat]

what about places where firearms would be dangerous to personal and/or equipment...  Should people still beloud to carry in those places where having a ferous metals near by could cost hundreds of thousands in damage?  If so then  who pays for the damage?

Example, please.

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[parrothead]

How about an MRI machine?

[Hazcat]

Sorry, Don't know much about them, but will having an LCP in my pocket screw things up?

[TAB]

Any place there are strong magnetic fields or sensitive electronics.

MRIs have both... yes your LCP would skrew them up.

Just about anything releated power( plants, sub stations,... etc).  You can also had "high" work in construction as there is no safe put your weapon( your in a harness remember) and by law every thing must be attached to you or the structure. degaussing coils, magnetic heating coils, microwave transmition stations ( radar, TV, raido)... I think you get the idea.

[Hazcat]

OK, you're talking about occupational hazards, not constitutional rights.

[TAB]

OK, you're talking about occupational hazards, not constitutional rights.

So why can those employers forbid them, but other can't?   In a perfect world people would not carry where they are a danger to themselfs/others/ "stuff", but we all know that there are plenty out there that are too dumb or too "thick headed" to take it off.



 There is not a job out there that having a 1 + lb (for the smallest pistols) hunk of metal some where on your body could not cuase harm or increase it.