S&W Revolvers w/IL

[Dharmaeye]

I just scored a Model 17-3 in near mint condition for a gun I never use....

[notsobigal]

My 642 that I have had for several years has been flawless. A great carry gun. I would prefer it without the lock though, one less thing that can go wrong

[m25operator]

Not a S&W, but I've installed the old style safeties on several remington shotguns, because the new J lock with a key would engage while firing.

[notsobigal]

Somebody on another forum (can't even remember where right now) was saying that S&W was going to make some 642s without the IL. Anybody else heard of this? Probably just wishful thinking!

[Neon Knight Anubis]

Yeah they're going to release short runs of 642 without the IL (hell of a time to be in Japan  ) and also another one but I can't think of the model number.

I want a 442 myself.

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[DesertMarine]

Went to the range with my 637 w/IL and shot 50 rounds as fast as I could load and pull the trigger.  10 rounds were 158 gr factory ammo and the rest 158 gr semi-wadcutters.  No problems. 

[TAB]

I think the IL are alot like the mag disconnects... people hate them,.  So they spread as much bad press about them as they can.  I have only heard a handful of times where they have failed.   Durring my time working for a FFL we sold thousands apon thousands of smiths with locks... not a single one ever came back do to lock failure... Infact I can only recall 1 smith revo that came back for warrenty work, and that was a sight insert that came out.  now ruger on the other hand, sold about the same as smith, but we got one back atleast once a month.

[Rob10ring]

What were the problems with the Rugers? …and which guns?

[TAB]

Pretty much every thing you could think of... generally it was small stuff.

[Ron J]

I think the IL are alot like the mag disconnects... people hate them,.  So they spread as much bad press about them as they can.  I have only heard a handful of times where they have failed.   Durring my time working for a FFL we sold thousands apon thousands of smiths with locks... not a single one ever came back do to lock failure... Infact I can only recall 1 smith revo that came back for warrenty work, and that was a sight insert that came out.  now ruger on the other hand, sold about the same as smith, but we got one back atleast once a month.

I agree.  But not to sound like I am running for the US Senate, it only takes one lock-up to cause doubt and doubt is not the best quality in a carry gun.  When one considers the odds of a gun locking with the odds of actually ever using it for self defense, the S&W products are a safe "bet".  Again, the problem with that statement is "bet".  True, any gun can be a victim of "Murphy" (my S&W 629DX comes to mind) but the S&W IL leaves the door open to more worries.