What would you do?

[Ron J]

Plus 1 to Haz and to what a couple of others said.  After that, I don't know.  Maybe wake up and have breakfast? 

[TAB]

all I'm going to say is 21 ft rule.

you really want to get freaked out, get a buddy, a dummy knife and a dummy gun... see who wins, its very sobering.

[Rastus]

all I'm going to say is 21 ft rule.

you really want to get freaked out, get a buddy, a dummy knife and a dummy gun... see who wins, its very sobering.

21 foot rule is a good rule.  Officers can use it.  But...in a jury of your peers a gun owner defending himself does not have the same rights of deadly force unless enunciated by the laws of the jurisdiciton you are in.  You may do the right thing, you may not even be charged, but agressive anti-gun DA's are going to put a high percentage of righteous self-defense oriented actions in the "bad guy" category and send good guys to jail.

Better to spend my remaining days in jail as opposed to wishing I had done something as the shawdows close in for a dirt nap.  Odds of survival go up if one responds to a deadly situation....then it's the odds of the jury and how well you keep your mouth shut after the battle. 

My name is, he/them wanted to kill me, his weapon is here, the witnesses are over there, the evidence is over yonder (his empty shells, etc.) and, "I'm sorry officer, you know how important this is.  I realize you need a quick statement but I need to speak with an attorney before I answer any questions."  Keep your mouth shut...some say the above is too much to say.  Officers are trained to realize the physiological affects of a conflict and how it makes them appear euphoric after a shooting and how that is a bad thing for them.  But it's "one way" training for most because they are also trained that the quickest statements are the most truthful.  Go figure.

[gunman1911]

I agree with the 21 foot rule it has been proven in court to a prossicuter I believe in Arizona by  Massad Ayoob, he key thing I strees here as I suspect you all know is to have a VERY good attorney how can and will submit the 21 foot rule, mind set before, during, and after is what saves the bacon. Lets not forget civil court that is sure to come.Just because the jury does not believe you does not nessicarly seal the case there have been times where the sitting judge over ruled a jury. I have seen no mention of BG2. Is he still a threat, did he get away or is he compliant? last I was in fear of my life and I want my attorney is all you need to say for at least 72 hours so that you have time to calm down. Do not talk to ANY one about what happened. It is one of the worst things to go through by yourself but just remember you won't for long.

[TAB]

i would think a good demo/ video of the 21 ft being applied by an expert would take care of the jury.

A SD class I took about 5 years ago  had us go into a room with a dummy gun, an instructor at the other end of the room( about 25 ft) had a dummy knife, but did not let you know he had it til he started running at you.  Not a single person got the gun out of the holster before we were stabed.  Not one, several of them were long time comp shooters. 

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[Pathfinder]

Gresham on PDTV made that same point about the 21 foot rule a couple of years ago - if someone wants you, they have a knife, and get within 21 feet, you will get cut. Period.

As for mindset and statements, do remember Mas Ayoob's instructions - I was just trying to stop him officer. Not that you were trying to kill him, that makes you a murderer in the eyes of the prosecutor. Just trying to stop him.

And as posted on this site in another thread - do NOT SAY ANYTHING MORE to the police - they will find a way to hang you on just about any word you use in a sentence. Get a damn good lawyer, let them talk to the police on your behalf.

[tombogan03884]

Gresham on PDTV made that same point about the 21 foot rule a couple of years ago - if someone wants you, they have a knife, and get within 21 feet, you will get cut. Period.

As for mindset and statements, do remember Mas Ayoob's instructions - I was just trying to stop him officer. Not that you were trying to kill him, that makes you a murderer in the eyes of the prosecutor. Just trying to stop him.

And as posted on this site in another thread - do NOT SAY ANYTHING MORE to the police - they will find a way to hang you on just about any word you use in a sentence. Get a damn good lawyer, let them talk to the police on your behalf.

I heard a Tom Gresham show one night when a doctor (MD.) called in with a gun question, during the conversation Tom said "Since I've got you on the line I've always wanted to ask a Doctor this question, What do you think of the statement , You SHOT HIM, He ONLY had a knife." The Doctor could not answer right off as he was laughing so hard. When he regained his composure he went into some detail about the severity of injuries that a knife can inflict.
The basic jist of his answer was that inside 10 yards if knife versus gun is not fair, the advantage is with the KNIFE .

[2HOW]

You put your hand on your knife at your side, I put my 1911 in my hand at my side, you are 21 feet away ,,wanna bet? I agree in the rule but there are always variables. Best to keep distance , no argument. Just saying.

[wisconsin]

To all of you that have posted a answer to this question. Are you getting you info from really world training.Such as LEO, military or actual paid training such as Gunsite etc. or from someone on TV. The reason I ask this is if I were to follow some of this info, I might be following the wrong advice. We don't have CCW here in Wi. ( got voted down by one vote). So the only line I have ever heard is to say I was in fear of my life. Please understand! I'm not questiong your qualifications on being able to give the correct advice as I'm reading it here today, I just don't want to find out that I followed the wrong advice. As an example: I use to room with a guy who later in life as a bartender in his fathers bar had to return fire at someone who started shooting through the door of his bar as he started enter it. My old roomates response was to duck behind the bar and shoot back. Only problem was he killed the guys (shooter) brother at the end of the bar. They arrested him ( my old roomate) and charged him with murder. As I come to find out that is standard procedure here. The charges were dropped later and the shooter was charged with his brothers murder. Funny thing is I never asked him what he said to the LEO at the time or if he did say the right thing. I only remember that his hair went from black to gray in a short time. How do I know your advice is the right advice to follow 

[2HOW]

Never take life changing advice on the internet as gospel. We mostly have some real world experience and training. But lawyers are the ones you need to ask legal questions.  People on the net have experience that spans many years, laws have changed and techniques as well . If you want solid advice, get professional help, with training or lawers.