VA Scandal. What do you think?

[Rastus]

I don't think the federal government will fix itself.  Congress, both sides, and the person who is in the Office of President have known what was going on for years.   In fact I don't care what the head of VA did in the military he's either a dumb as a rock promotee' or has turned into a sellout.

If administrators denied people care they were entitled to in the pursuit of furthering their careers or somehow feathering their own nests or because they were ordered to CONTRARY to policy to deny care why not charge those people with murder or manslaughter? 

I think that fits....talk about see the federal government convulse....the states still have the big stick until that Constitutional Convention filled with good intentions gets derailed as pre-planned by the communist/totalitarian progressive liberals.  Besides....it will give Eric Holder something else to do to defend the minions as opposed to focusing on how to screw the people.

[brushmore]

As someone who has gone to the VA in the past, this is not surprise.  They seem like they do everything in their power to get you to not use the VA.  I sustained an injury to my shoulder while in the service and was hoping to get treatment for it but the hassle of dealing with the VA was not worth it so I just paid for whatever I needed myself.

I pretty much have 0 faith that anything we actually get fixed.  This is just how large bureaucracies work by their nature and until people figure  that out nothing will change.

[kmitch200]

When I was taking people to emergency rooms as a career from '78-'10, many vets wanted to go to the Phx VA "Emergency" Dept for treatment. (very small, VERY understaffed)

After MULTIPLE problems the Fire Dept medical director sent out a memo that said we could NOT take patients there. If the patient was needing emergency care, they needed to go to any other ED than that one.
IIRC, that was back in the 90's...I don't imagine that anything has gotten much better in the years since. 

It's very nature (bureaucracy) means that it is a fustercluck who's only interest is perpetuating itself.

[tombogan03884]

Tell me again about how great govt health care is ?
Think this is bad, Obamacare is for the entire country.

[crusader rabbit]

I have been involved with the VA (as a patient) for more years than I'd care to admit.  And contrary to the reports of many others, I have enjoyed superlative treatment.  Of course, it should be noted that I use the C.W. "Bill" Young Bay Pines Veterans Hospital.   Bill Young, our long time congresscritter, was a true champion for veterans' rights, and his wife, Beverly, was indefatigable in her pursuit of nothing but the best for Florida vets.

I now sport two after-market hips that still work better than the ones I got from God--even after 10 years or more on the first one and 8 or 9 on number 2.

Last year around this time I discovered I had a hiatal hernia.  Better than 80% of my stomach had taken up residence north of my diaphragm and was pressing against my heart. The VA got me in for surgery within a week after discovery.  Can't fault that kind of speed.

When I needed new glasses, I got my eye exam scheduled within 3 weeks to a month of my request and my new specs came in the mail 8 days later.

I should also note that when I was visiting my folks in Mesa, AZ, I discovered I had picked up a tapeworm while teaching English in Thailand.  Don't ask how I know, but believe me when I say I had absolute confirmation it was a tapeworm.  I wanted/needed treatment, so I went to the infamous Phoenix VA.

They couldn't find any record of my ever being in the VA system.  My government issued VA identification card couldn't be read on their computer system (or so they said) so I was denied treatment.  Ended up with a $150 per visit doc-in-the-box and a $200 prescription.  Had I been back home in Florida, I have no doubt I would have been treated immediately.

So, I guess what I am saying is this:It depends on where you live what kind of service the VA will provide. 

That some of my brothers have died waiting for care from their local VA is beyond the pale.  Those responsible should be brought up on murder charges.   But it is also important to realize that this is a precursor of what's coming under OdamnaCare.  Rationed care is an inevitability.

I would also note that C.W.  "Bill" Young was a lifelong Republican.  His successor is David Jolly, likewise, a Republican.  The majority (if not all) of the areas wherein suspect VA facilities are located are predominantly Democrat.

FWIW,
Crusader Rabbit

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Gee all the votes are for the same option.

[Solus]

I've had the same experience as Crusader...but only for a few years now...

I was worried about the quality, but after these 3 or so years, I find I am getting better care than I did at my private practice Dr.

I am impressed with the dedication of the staff I have encountered also...with the very few exceptions you will find in any organization.

I believe them may have gotten out of the ER business.  When I call, the recording advises you that if it is an emergency call to call 911 and tell the ER you are on the VA health plan.

[Rastus]

Gee all the votes are for the same option.

Yeah well...I'm just playing by the left's rules.  Fire with fire, you know....

I set it up to get the result I wanted.

[kmitch200]

A family member who lives in MN has gotten some pretty good VA care like CRabbit has experienced.
Prosthetic leg, surgerys when needed, all with only slight delays. Similar to what Dad got in WI before he passed away. I hope most vets get this kind of good treatment.
If you need to use the Phx VA, run....

Whoever gave the disgraced Phx VA director a bonus, (now supposedly rescinded), should be tarred & feathered right after they get done with the now former director.

[tombogan03884]

My Dad is classed as 100% disabled due to long term effects of his service during the Korean war.
His experience has been the same as Crusader Rabbit's.
Some facilities are real good while others suck.