Man jailed over gun in UGA hotel

[ericire12]

That was a qoute from his eval of the hart study... google him, you will see he has several published studys as well as books.

Chances are very high you will like him as he is anti gun control.  The NRA and NRA-ILA  site his works all the time.  I'm not going to spend my time looking up his works, I've read alot of them and for the most part I agree with him.  That is something I recomend you do. 

He is just one of many that has made the statment that guns don't effect crime stats.

Last time I heard that phrase, it was out of the mouth of Rosie O'Donnell...... I'm just sayin'

[ericire12]

One more try and then I'm done with this topic. 

TAB, lets assume that you are correct (I’m not conceding that however) - so what? 

If I'm less likely to become a victim of crime by carrying a gun and that, as you postulate, gun ownership is neutral to crime statistics - then carrying a gun is a good thing (or at a minimum - not a bad thing).

I’ll also point out that math is involved in calculating the crime rate.  It is kind of like a batting average in baseball.  Towards the end of the baseball season if a batter gets a couple three hits in a row the batting average only moves a couple of thousandths of a point.

As an aside, if a crime is not committed how can it be quantified and used in a statistical model?

So when taking a national crime number (a very big number) and then factor in the impact of gun owners (a relative small number) the mathematical impact is very small.

However, the impact to the individual who is not injured or killed in an incident has an extremely large impact to the individual and the person’s loved ones.

Not to mention that there are countless crimes prevented and countless lives saved by armed citizens that go unreported.

Very few instances in which an armed citizen has to display his/her weapon in order to make a bad guy go the other direction are ever reported. They just re-holster, thank God that they didn't have to fire, and then go home to their family.

[tombogan03884]

Not to mention that there are countless crimes prevented and countless lives saved by armed citizens that go unreported.

Very few instances in which an armed citizen has to display his/her weapon in order to make a bad guy go the other direction are ever reported. They just re-holster, thank God that they didn't have to fire, and then go home to their family.

 that's the part that matters.

[twyacht]

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