Target shooters start Yosemite fires?

[Ron J]

Got to agree with John.  Forests are fire bombs waiting to happen.  We could take all the debris and turn it into something useful like heating pellets or freak'n bark mulch.  But no ... too many tree huggers think that will offend Ma' Nature.  Clean up the forest or quit bitching about the fires that are product of the natural waste that is piling up. 

[JohnJacobH]

Target shooting blamed
State fire spokeswoman Karen Guillemin said the cause of the fire, dubbed the Telegraph Fire, "is definitely target shooting," but would not elaborate.

You know, the more I think about this, the more aggravated I get. This calls for a Jim Zumboesque mail campaign to this woman's office.

We, the People, CANNOT let Them, Kakistocrats define issues around their political agenda especially when so much information exists to
correct the record.

Ask this lady WHY firebreak lines have been relabeled "logging roads" and closed? Or pick any of these articles or find your own and bombard her office with email and snail mail and phone calls and demand the truth about forest management.

In  a government where no boondoggle is ever left behind, the ONE thing we cannot buy is tree shredding equipment. In a society that thinks the old ways are best, the ONE thing we cannot do is restore forests to their historic densities and condition.


It is THEIR incompetent policies that KILL Bambi and Thumper and and snail darters and destroy wildlife habitat, NOT target shooting. Not now, not ever!

Good grief, four months of blogging and I have become a David Codrea clone.

http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/nine-myths-about-forest-fires/

http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/forest-fire-myths-part-ii-the-short-version/

http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/forest-fire-myths-part-iii-another-view/

http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/trees-are-evil-they-deserve-to-die/

http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/trees-are-evil-they-deserve-to-die-part-iii-cedareaters/

[ismram]

After Heller, ANY negative "gun" stories are going to be front page stories, just to remind the "sheeple", how bad those guns can be, even to the point of Smokey The Bear, "Only you (shooters), can prevent forest fires. Oh and the anti pollution owl will be brought back out "Give a hoot, and don't shoot"

LOL!!!! Very Funny!!!!

[Blank]

Hello All,

It's hard enough to start a fire with flint and steel when you want to.

Let along using lead and base rock. No matter how fast the lead going.

(ask any caveman, they tell ya)

The news anti guns folks want John Doe Public to believe that lie.

Because the antis guns and animal want to shut down the whole forest to us gunners.

They know that John D Public VOTE.

Anyway, everyone know this. But the none gunner will believe any on the News at Eleven about guns...

The BLM is on board too. With this lead and rock BS. They have posted sign in and around the shoot areas in Utah.

Just waiting for a fire. So, they shut down the state to shooting...

Fire fighter don't go into shooting areas to fight fire...

They wait until the move out until it's safe to fight it.

They don't to have a live round heat up and go off next to them.

I think we all better call the News folks and ask them " Just how does work? Lead and base rock starting fire??"

Lets see a demo please?

You can shoot a tracer into gasoline tank and not start a fire.... G Whiz

I have the video to prove it!

My two cents
Blank

[tombogan03884]

Hello All,

It's hard enough to start a fire with flint and steel when you want to.

Let along using lead and base rock. No matter how fast the lead going.

(ask any caveman, they tell ya)

The news anti guns folks want John Doe Public to believe that lie.

Because the antis guns and animal want to shut down the whole forest to us gunners.

They know that John D Public VOTE.

Anyway, everyone know this. But the none gunner will believe any on the News at Eleven about guns...

The BLM is on board too. With this lead and rock BS. They have posted sign in and around the shoot areas in Utah.

Just waiting for a fire. So, they shut down the state to shooting...

Fire fighter don't go into shooting areas to fight fire...

They wait until the move out until it's safe to fight it.

They don't to have a live round heat up and go off next to them.

I think we all better call the News folks and ask them " Just how does work? Lead and base rock starting fire??"

Lets see a demo please?

You can shoot a tracer into gasoline tank and not start a fire.... G Whiz

I have the video to prove it!

My two cents
Blank

I don't believe that bullets hitting rocks will start a fire, but the Air Force has loads of video that says your claim about tracer not igniting gas is BS. I, and many other Army and Marine Vets on this site have spent PLENTY of time putting out grass fires ignited by tracer.

[Sponsor]

[RTFM]

I don't believe that bullets hitting rocks will start a fire, but the Air Force has loads of video that says your claim about tracer not igniting gas is BS. I, and many other Army and Marine Vets on this site have spent PLENTY of time putting out grass fires ignited by tracer.

Amen to that brother, we had a doozie at Fort Jackson back in 1983... fun.... but darn scarry at the same time.
Ah to be young again.......

[TAB]

In the Coasties I got a chance to fire some API  At an old boat that was being sunk to build a reef... Let me say this, that boat was striped of anything that would burn, yet it still was lit up by that m2.

[Pathfinder]

I don't believe that bullets hitting rocks will start a fire, but the Air Force has loads of video that says your claim about tracer not igniting gas is BS. I, and many other Army and Marine Vets on this site have spent PLENTY of time putting out grass fires ignited by tracer.

I have personally seen one discarded cigarette start a brush fire in a somewhat dry (no recent rain) but moist (Spring) setting.

Let's talk drought. Having lived through drought conditions here in ND, I have seen the result of a combine hitting a rock and and the resulting small spark starting an 800 acre fire. Drought conditions are not normal, and they create absolute tinderboxes. It got so every morning when I got up on my ranch I scanned the horizon in 360 degrees, and didn't stop until I went to bed or it got dark.

Conditions have to be right - the combine alone won't start a fire, for example, (although a hot muffler on a pickup will) the rock has to be in the right place to hit the swather head, and the tinder needs to be right there. But in a hard drought, as in northern CA right now, it is not all that hard. The tree huggers also made it just that much easier, and that much more likely.

[Blank]

( don't believe that bullets hitting rocks will start a fire, but the Air Force has loads of video that says your claim about tracer not igniting gas is BS. I, and many other Army and Marine Vets on this site have spent PLENTY of time putting out grass fires ignited by tracer.)

Sorry, I am not in the Air Force. I did work for the forest forest service. fought fires too.

But, I do still have the video of tracers hitting the gas tank and nothing happen but nice hole.

I am pretty sure if you use a 50 cal with tracers all kinds of things will happen.

Do you think it was the Air Force that did those fires in CA? LOL

Or just a bone head with match?

Thanks for your replay.

 I new I could get you going on that one...

Have a fun day!!

Blank

[tombogan03884]

( don't believe that bullets hitting rocks will start a fire, but the Air Force has loads of video that says your claim about tracer not igniting gas is BS. I, and many other Army and Marine Vets on this site have spent PLENTY of time putting out grass fires ignited by tracer.)

Sorry, I am not in the Air Force. I did work for the forest forest service. fought fires too.

But, I do still have the video of tracers hitting the gas tank and nothing happen but nice hole.

I am pretty sure if you use a 50 cal with tracers all kinds of things will happen.

Do you think it was the Air Force that did those fires in CA? LOL

Or just a bone head with match?

Thanks for your replay.

 I new I could get you going on that one...

Have a fun day!!

Blank

Air force, Navy and Marine Corps have MILES of gun camera video that say other wise. Also the WWI and early WWII aircraft were armed with .30 cal. so you can't blame it on .50's doing strange things.