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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 10:39:02 PM »
You need to have experience in the gun industry before anyone in the gun indusrty wants to hire you. So how are you supposed to get any experience?
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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 12:49:11 AM »
I spent the better part of 3 years working in a very active FFL...  Lets just say it really opened my eyes when it comes to how little people know about gun safety.  I have no doubts that my time working there is why I think every one should be able to get a CCW, but they MUST have training envoling both laws and safe use of a firearm.


Now when it comes to running a biz... let me ask you this.

Do you like the fallowing:

paper work

dealing with other peoples probs

Dealing with people that have no fooking clue what they are doing

not sleeping

Saying "the pay role is only $10000 this pay cycle"

 Reading complex laws ( not gun laws)

Making less then min wage

  etc etc






 
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 12:58:57 AM »
I spent the better part of 3 years working in a very active FFL...  Lets just say it really opened my eyes when it comes to how little people know about gun safety.  I have no doubts that my time working there is why I think every one should be able to get a CCW, but they MUST have training envoling both laws and safe use of a firearm.


Now when it comes to running a biz... let me ask you this.

Do you like the fallowing:

paper work

dealing with other peoples probs

Dealing with people that have no fooking clue what they are doing

not sleeping

Saying "the pay role is only $10000 this pay cycle"

 Reading complex laws ( not gun laws)

Making less then min wage

  etc etc

Change" Making less then min wage " to making well below average wage and you have just about got life figured out.

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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 01:23:50 AM »
I spent the better part of 3 years working in a very active FFL...  Lets just say it really opened my eyes when it comes to how little people know about gun safety.  I have no doubts that my time working there is why I think every one should be able to get a CCW, but they MUST have training envoling both laws and safe use of a firearm.


Now when it comes to running a biz... let me ask you this.

Do you like the fallowing:

paper work

dealing with other peoples probs

Dealing with people that have no fooking clue what they are doing

not sleeping

Saying "the pay role is only $10000 this pay cycle"

 Reading complex laws ( not gun laws)

Making less then min wage

  etc etc
 

A lot of that's what sucked about working on guns in the army too. A lot of other things sucked too.

Paperwork with 5 copies going to 5 different places.

Someone walking into the shop with a garbage bag that rattles, containing an M16A1 rifle run over by at least one whole platoon of tanks.

Being on call 24 hours a day for 45 days straight while you live in a tent, followed by putting in 60 hour weeks for the next 45 days, then living in a tent and being on call for another 45 days straight, then another 45 days of 60 hour weeks, and so on, for a couple of years with no break.

Making about $1/hour as a starting salary. Well below minimum wage.

And how about ordering so many parts you remember the National Stock Numbers, no matter how hard you try to forget, more than 20 years later.
M60 machinegun barrel assembly -------------- NSN 1005-00-608-0001
M60 machinegun bolt assembly ---------------- NSN 1005-00-608-0002
M60 machinegun operating rod assembly --- NSN 1005-00-608-0003

And a lot of the weapons were twice as old as I was and had a lot of use, so they were all wearing out.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

THE RIGHT TO BUY WEAPONS IS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE - A. E. van Vogt, The Weapon Shops of Isher

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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 01:25:47 AM »
A lot of that's what sucked about working on guns in the army too. A lot of other things sucked too.

Paperwork with 5 copies going to 5 different places.

Someone walking into the shop with a garbage bag that rattles, containing an M16A1 rifle run over by at least one whole platoon of tanks.

Being on call 24 hours a day for 45 days straight while you live in a tent, followed by putting in 60 hour weeks for the next 45 days, then living in a tent and being on call for another 45 days straight, then another 45 days of 60 hour weeks, and so on, for a couple of years with no break.

Making about $1/hour as a starting salary.

And how about ordering so many parts you remember the National Stock Numbers, no matter how hard you try to forget, more than 20 years later.
M60 machinegun barrel assembly -------------- NSN 1005-00-608-0001
M60 machinegun bolt assembly ---------------- NSN 1005-00-608-0002
M60 machinegun operating rod assembly --- NSN 1005-00-608-0003

And a lot of the weapons were twice as old as I was and had a lot of use, so they were all wearing out.

No sympathy here Frank, I was a 76Y in the Guard.  ;D

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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2008, 01:28:04 AM »
I had to deal with that 365.25 days a year.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

THE RIGHT TO BUY WEAPONS IS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE - A. E. van Vogt, The Weapon Shops of Isher

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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2008, 08:11:46 AM »
Not sure if you are set on the manufacturing side.  I like the teaching side.  Get some NRA certifications and start teaching.  It's fun and you meet some great people.

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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2010, 07:40:57 AM »
Can anyone quide or know the procedss involved in hiring a worker for arms industry. for example, if  an arms manufacturer wants to hire a gunsmith, what are the requirements  the gunsmith must meet, like background check, finger printing etc?

can some one attach a job application etc.
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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2010, 08:46:52 AM »
Like any industry, it has it's not so great aspects from a "worker" standpoint.   "The grass isn't any greener" complex.  It has it's pluses and it's minuses.

I think you need to have a good understanding of what YOU like in a work environment.   Me, I like chaos!   I thrive in chaos.   In chaos is many opportunities, both to do good work and to hide bad.  One of the things I like doing in chaotic environments is organizing them.   However, once organized I no longer like working there and start to get bored.  A paradox to be sure.   I work towards my own ultimate unhappiness!

GLOCK.  Is a local company for me.   I know one, relatively new worker there.   They are very secretive about their hiring.  They do not post open positions, they vet extensively and the only way to find out about jobs or get on board is to be recommended by an employee.   I'm sure some of the other companies are more open.  But regardless, having inside contacts (networking) is always good.

Good luck with your job search.
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Re: Working and Jobs in the firearms/shooting industry
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2010, 09:41:06 AM »
Thanks for the post. However, i am not looking for a job. I am associated with an upcoming manufacturer of fire arms. I am trying to find out what all are legal requirments to employ a worker in the fire arm industry. Is it mandatory to forward particulars of a potential firearms industry employee  to the local police, finger print him etc? or just regular background check and drug test OK to employ some one?
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