Ferguson Mo.

[tombogan03884]

By now we have all heard about the "racist cop" who shot the "unarmed black teen".
There's a few facts that you're NOT hearing though, for starters, while the PD may be mostly white, the now named Cop may be black.

http://theblacksphere.net/2014/8/ferguson-cop-is-black-plus

I called this within hours of the incident, and that’s because I know Liberals better than their pathetic mothers!
Darren Wilson is the cop who shot Michael Brown, Jr. and Darren Wilson is BLACK!
I predicted this, because if he had been white, this issue would have hit NUCLEAR proportions.

What’s interesting is the background of Darren Wilson is what Wilson’s role was as reported in St. Louis Today:

    Minority officers sounded off for more than two hours Wednesday before the police department’s highest-ranking black commanders about issues they believe illustrate racism within the ranks and the need for reform. But those commanders blamed some of the issues on unmotivated officers. About 30 members of the Ethical Society of Police packed the organization’s office for the special meeting convened to call black commanders to action in the wake of a racist letter sent to a black police officer, presumably by another officer in South Patrol. The group’s president, Sgt. Darren Wilson, said last week that the racist note was symptomatic of a larger, citywide problem. About a third of the 1,325-member police force is African-American; the city it serves is almost equally divided between black and white residents. “If you’re treating a police department employee like this, how are we treating our citizens?” Wilson asked.

I’d like to see how black people calling for more black cops try to spin this!
 


Be aware that this disclaimer has been added as I was posting

We are removing this story, since we are told that this is NOT the same Darren Wilson. Efforts are being made to find the correct Darren Wilson.
That said, I still believe this cop is black.

As for the "innocent teen", the reason the officer wanted to talk to him is in that he was the prime suspect in a theft.

http://threepercenternation.com/2014/08/breaking-mikebrown-primary-subject-in-strong-armed-robbery-just-before-the-fatal-shooting/

(KTVI)- Chief Tom Jackson confirms that the name of the officer who shot and killed Michael Brown is Darren Wilson.

Michael Brown was allegedly involved in a convenience  store theft.

Police have released a video from an August 9th robbery where Michael Brown was the primary suspect. The robbery occurred at a convenience store between 11:53 and 11:54 am Saturday morning.

Nothing specific happened that affected their decision making but they feel there’s a certain calm and deep outcry from community. Huge Sunshine Law requests and other legal issues had to be weighed out.

The chief would not comment on the safety precautions of the officer involved. He says there have been security concerns all along.

He is asking for the community to remain calm.

Police in Ferguson, Missouri plan to release the name of the officer who shot Michael Brown Friday. The St. Louis suburb has been the scene of demonstrations since Brown died last weekend.

 State troopers are taking over security in this St. Louis suburb after days of clashes between local police and protesters.

Gov. Jay Nixon said he decided to put the Missouri State Highway Patrol in charge of security because “at this particular point, the attitudes weren’t improving, and the blocks towards expression appeared to be a flashpoint.”

Lately, the community of Ferguson, which has been the scene of demonstrations and a strong police response in the wake of a weekend police shooting that left African-American teenager Michael Brown dead, has looked “more like a war zone, and it’s not acceptable,” Nixon said.

Now, authorities — who’ve faced accusations that they’ve used excessive force in response to demonstrations — will be taking a different tack in an effort to calm tensions, officials said Thursday.

“We’re all about making sure that we allow peaceful and appropriate protests, that we use force only when necessary, that we step back a little bit and let some of the energy be felt in this region, appropriately,” Nixon said

Chosen by the state’s governor to head up the new security operation, Missouri State Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson said he planned to meet with protesters Thursday.

“We are going to have a different approach and have the approach that we’re in this together,” he said.

As groups of protesters grew Thursday evening, the demonstrations were calm.

Some said they were prepared for police aggression, despite what authorities have promised.

“Gas me, shoot me, I will stand my ground,” one protester’s sign said.

Time will tell if the new police tactics work, said Patricia Bynes, Democratic committeewoman for Ferguson Township.

“Things usually tend to turn once the sun starts going down. … I think the test is going to be this evening,” she said.

Antonio French, a St. Louis alderman who was arrested at a demonstration in Ferguson Wednesday, said he’s already noticed the new tone.

“Really, it has been the police presence, the heavy-handed presence, which has escalated the situation and I think led to the violence each night. And so it’s good to see this new approach,” he said. “Already there is a different attitude and a different interaction between the crowd and police, and I am very hopeful for a peaceful night.”

[Rastus]

And we knew we'd have a few Ambulance/Agenda Chasers.  Here's one from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar:  http://time.com/3132635/ferguson-coming-race-war-class-warfare/ .

It talks about a coming race war, "Ferguson is not just about systemic racism — it's about class warfare and how America's poor are held back", says Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.  Also about how America's poor are held back.  Of course, since it is written from the victim standpoint without citing the need for personal responsibility it's just so much hot air.

At a point he speaks how racism is fist shaking and misses the 50million poor in the US voting block who can't get it together but if they did watch out.  Of course they can't get it together...they are, as he says, distracted by emotionalism...why of course they are that's what drives sheep and liberals. 

He also says he doesn't want to paint all the "superrich" with the same broad strokes when citing the superrich who were looking to reduce a plethora of things: student loans excesses, food stamps, extended unemployment benefits.  I'm for personal responsibility...but I do recognize the need for food stamps and unemployment benefit extension in light of the systematic destruction of the US economy wrote upon us by liberals and self-centered industrialist who have changed the laws, added laws and ignored law and common decency to screw their fellow citizens.  Jabbar misses the point here by implying we need all of this...yeah we need it right now, but because of the kind of self-centered liberals and lying RINO's that are in power along with totalitarians he supported like Obama. 

He says we all need to get together to get rid of corrupt politicians...I agree.  But then what?  Without personal responsibility it's ultimately the same thing. 

So...for Kareem and his ilk it is business as usual.....all good things flow from government and we need to shakeup the government so all is good.  Right.

[mortdooley]

I will use the commentary of Mr. Fred Reed to make my point rather then offend the sensitivities of the defenders of the dead thug!

 http://www.fredoneverything.net/Ferguson.shtml

[Solus]

JPFO has an article on Ferguson.  Where ever the chips fall on the justifiability of the shooting, there is a problem with the police.


Oh, the Things We Choose Not to See!

You may believe Brown was on his knees, arms raised in surrender and supplication when Wilson executed him. You may believe that Wilson fired in self defense as Brown lunged for the officer's gun. You may believe the shooting was an act of fatal racism or the justified elimination of a garden-variety criminal whose race was irrelevant.

Only one thing is certain and now obvious to nearly everybody now: Policing in the U.S. has gone completely wrong.

http://jpfo.org/articles-assd04/wolfe-police-militarization.htm

[TAB]

I don't know what happened and really don't care.   my only issue is the military style response of the police force.  also its amazing at how the media reacted to the police telling them nicely, leave its not safe, then again and again and again.  then finally not being nice.  they should have left them to the rioters.

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[vincewarde]

IMHO, the information we have to date about the actual shooting incident and as more hard evidence comes in, I only have more questions

1) Given that today's information indicates that all shots were fired from 2 feet away or more, and that the subject ended up some distance from the vehicle, the initial reports that he was shot in a struggle over the officer's firearm seems less and less likely.  Why was the officer unable to use his baton, Mace/pepper spray or Taser?  I know this guy was huge - but to resort to lethal force without using any of these does raise questions that need to be answered.

2) We have all heard that this young man was headed to college on a scholarship.  We have also all seen the footage of the theft he was involved in.  My question is simple: Did he have a prior record?  Was this a stupid, one time thing - or was it SOP for this kid?

3) What if any substances were present in the kids blood?


I also have some questions regarding the community:

1) How does a majority black community end up with an all white or nearly all white city government?  Is this the only city in America where black folks do not vote?  Have no black candidates run for office?  Yes, I get that we don't always vote for people of the same race - but when city government is so different than the community, something is wrong.....

2) Why does is the police department nearly all white?  Why did it have such a bad relationship with the community?

It is worth pointing out that few, if any of those arrested have actually been from Ferguson.  People from the community attempted to protect businesses from looting and as I type this I see community leaders standing between the hotheads and the cops, attempting to keep peace.  I see them going after someone who threw something at the cops.  In short, this could be going a lot worse if it were not for community leaders. 

In addition to the above questions, I am sure there are many more that I haven't thought of - and for all of these reasons I will wait for more information to come to light before I decide what happened.

[TAB]

2 feet or more does not really mean anything,   not much difference between 24" and 36" inches.  both are still arms lengths.   if I was struggling to control my weapon, if I could create that distance, you can bet your ass I am shooting.  the fact that he is huge would only give more creditability that I was in fear for my life/ great harm.      it takes more time to draw a baton then it does a gun as they are tipically carried cross draw  then there is the strikes, which remember can not be to the head, only body/ legs.   pepper spray is a no go at close range, it hits you to.      neither of those options are fight stoppers.
 

that being said I don't know what happened and really don't care.   just I would not use those tid bits of info to disprove a store of fighting over a weapon.   


as to scolarships... that has nothing to do with the kid... I know lots of people that had them, from every thing from contests to sports.   hell I give one out  every year to a senior on my hs wrestling team.  its only $100, its based on heart.  ie how hard does the person try.

[kmitch200]

You're right Vince, there are a LOT of questions...
The more "facts" they release, the more questions seem to be raised or unanswered.
What I would like to see is a carefully constructed timeline (initial contact, broadcast of robbery on radio, physical contact & shooting) but that won't be available until the investigation is complete. 

People from the community attempted to protect businesses from looting and as I type this I see community leaders standing between the hotheads and the cops, attempting to keep peace.

That is one bright light in this whole $hi+show.
There was a report of this....(1st night) supposedly some residents broke into an auto repair shop, grabbed the customers keys and all the tires and wheels they could haul off to protect them.
They brought the stuff back the next day and returned everything to the shop owner.
Heads up proactive help from good folks to keep loss to a minimum. 

If Ferguson's PD and the County's investigations come up with a clean slate for the cop, the feces is going to impact the rotating propeller at warp speed.

[mortdooley]

This is a media distraction,when is the last time we heard or read anything about the invasion on our southern border?

What else could be the news of the day if this wasn't in the headlines?

Whoever engineered this turned a local incident in to a national call to riot! From what little reliable information I could get from the news I would have shot him too. The wound pattern shows the Officer has the same bad habit I do, he curls his finger across the trigger as he fires!

[billt]

I'll put a different twist on this........I'M BORED WITH IT!....... All of it. These people, (blacks), are always primed for this type of thing with the safety off, ready to fire. They store up the energy like one of those air powered pumpkin launchers. Then let it all go just as soon as the time is right. How does stealing big screen TV's and expensive clothes they can't afford coincide with what happened? It doesn't. It just happens to be the "event" that pulls their trigger to not only do it, but more impotantly, get away with it..

When I was a kid I saw it on TV with the Watts riots. I saw it in Detroit, and L.A. As well as other cities after Martin Luther King was killed. I saw it after the Rodney King verdict was announced. I saw it after Trevon Martin got himself killed for being stupid. And now I'm seeing it in Ferguson because another black idiot gets himself shot after robbing a store, and starting a struggle with a cop. (That's what happened regardless of how much they want to spin it otherwise.) This idiot was not murdered in cold blood for nothing.

This will never end. I don't give a rats ass who, "calls for calm and peace". I don't care how many times the asinine media parades the "victims" grieving family in front of everyone in prime time, acting like they care, and are "trying to understand". Sharpton and Jackson will always show up to beat the mix into a steaming froth, and earn their paychecks as the race baiters they are, and always were. Neither give a damn what happens to blacks, unless it's whites doing it to them. This will continue forever. In the 61 years I've been alive it's gotten worse, not better. And it will continue to get worse, regardless of how much whites try to act politically correct, and kiss black ass in the process.

You could give them all the prosperity their little hearts desire, and they will destroy all of it, and come back wanting more. And much like the "good Muslims", they do nothing to offset the carnage the "bad ones" cause on a never ending basis. Because deep down they themselves don't care, or else they're for it. Sharpton makes the most of these situations by trying to escalate them, while whites try to see who can be the most politically correct, and look like the biggest ass hats doing it. They'll parade a bunch of educated blacks in front of the camera, trying to, "understand the problem". Acting stupid and ignorant of the real problem that's been starring them in the face for the last century plus. That is blacks and whites will NEVER live in peace and harmony. Regardless of how much Paul McCartney, or anyone else sings or talks about it.

I will go to my grave watching this kind of thing, regardless of how long I live. If I had kids they would go to their graves watching much the same thing. These things play out like a bad rerun of a lousy TV show that was bad from the get go. Each time you watch it, they get a little worse. I can see bad behavior from blacks, or anyone else, most anywhere. I don't need to watch it in concentration, because some poor cop is doing his job, and the blacks don't seem to like peace and civility, so they use it as a grandiose excuse to act like idiots.