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Re: Unique law lets police seize guns before a crime is committed (CT)
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 11:26:07 AM »
If laws like this ever take hold and sweep across the nation, it could be the 'trigger' that TomBogan asked about on another thread, "When do We start shooting?".

Think about this, too:
You are at a cookout over at the neighbor's house and get into a petty disagreement over who's the best NASCAR driver or something. You have a shouting match, or maybe it even comes to blows, but no major harm is done and you collect yourself and go home. You think things are settled down when a few weeks later 'John Law' comes a knockin' with warrants to seize ALL your guns because the neighbor turned you in as an 'unstable hothead' who he fears will come after him in the night like the Booger-Man.

Scary crap!

It is scary that this has been a law on the books for almost 10 years and many have never even heard of it, myself included.
I'm amazed the NRA hasn't broadcast it from the rooftops.

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Re: Unique law lets police seize guns before a crime is committed (CT)
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2008, 11:43:08 AM »
Something similar to this was proposed in PA. It was soundly defeated. The proposal was aimed at protecting women who thought an ex might use a firearm on her, but could be universally applied. The PA version didn't require an investigation before the seizure of the firearms, and any claim could be a basis for confiscation. Of course we all know that there are no unstable, vindictive or just run-of -the-mill anti-gunners  of either sex who would abuse this type of law.
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Re: Unique law lets police seize guns before a crime is committed (CT)
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2008, 11:52:06 AM »
Quote from: Fatman on August 06, 2008, 11:43:08 AM
Something similar to this was proposed in PA. It was soundly defeated. The proposal was aimed at protecting women who thought an ex might use a firearm on her, but could be universally applied. The PA version didn't require an investigation before the seizure of the firearms, and any claim could be a basis for confiscation. Of course we all know that there are no unstable, vindictive or just run-of -the-mill anti-gunners  of either sex who would abuse this type of law.

My brother's ex is the type of person that would do just that. She is the most unstable, vindictive human being I've ever met and would use a law like this against someone in a heartbeat.
That's where the main abuse would come from. People with a chip on their shoulders and out to get someone.
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Re: Unique law lets police seize guns before a crime is committed (CT)
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2008, 07:32:08 PM »
They mentioned that the law passed constitutional muster? Unlawful search and seizsure and due process?  Maybe I missed something but a court challege would seem to up end this goosestepping law.
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