Author Topic: Houston Mayor, subpoenas Pastors for sermons?  (Read 5917 times)

tombogan03884

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Re: Houston Mayor, subpoenas Pastors for sermons?
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2014, 01:29:48 PM »
That doesn't hold up Solus.
Al Sharpton has been inciting violence since the days of Tawana Brawley and nothing was ever done.
Several of Sharpton's speeches have led to riots and murders that were later directly linked to his statements.

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Re: Houston Mayor, subpoenas Pastors for sermons?
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2014, 01:35:30 PM »
I hear your point M58, but I will pick the nit that pro gunners use "shall not be infringed" alone to illustrate that no legislation regulating the whole has any legitimacy, while the antis use the "well regulated" part as an excuse for ignoring the second part.

Tom, allow me to nit you back and point out that keeping "regulated" in its era context not only supports but strengthens "shall not be infringed."  Pro-Constitution people actually hurt their own cause when they only use one half of the sentence.

Oh, wait a minute:  That is the point I was trying to make earlier.
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Re: Houston Mayor, subpoenas Pastors for sermons?
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2014, 03:30:51 PM »
It would help if some of us actually looked at the subpoenas or at least the more in depth articles about them.

The lesbian mayor - who has now denied all knowledge of the subpoenas until a few days ago - and the district attorney who is also now denying all knowledge of the subpoenas, claiming instead that "pro bono attorneys" preparing the city's defense in the lawsuit against the so-called HERO ordinance which mandates common use of all bathrooms based on sexual self-identity.

The subpoenas seemed to have more to do with any of the sermons' references to homosexuality and to the lesbian mayor (I'll stop referring to her that way when she does) than anything else. No one, TAB and Tom - NO ONE - has advocated any violence for or against anything. Nice knee-jerk on your part there, especially you TAB.

And now Abbott, the Texas AG and running for Governor against "Abortion Barbie" Davis, has essentially sent a cease and desist letter to the DA.
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Re: Houston Mayor, subpoenas Pastors for sermons?
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2014, 04:21:57 PM »
Nice knee jerk on your part, I never said any one had. I simply pointed out that when Democrats do incite violence nothing is done about it so even if these preachers HAD as TAB speculated it would be irrelevant.
You sound like a person with a guilty conscience leaping to conclusions like that.
 

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Re: Houston Mayor, subpoenas Pastors for sermons?
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2014, 04:24:10 PM »
That doesn't hold up Solus.
Al Sharpton has been inciting violence since the days of Tawana Brawley and nothing was ever done.
Several of Sharpton's speeches have led to riots and murders that were later directly linked to his statements.

Reread my post, Tom.

I said without that violence that can be linked to the speach/sermon a subpoena would be iffy and even with the violence it would be too.

I compared it to music or movie that called for violence and even if it did result in violence any action would be doubtful.
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Re: Houston Mayor, subpoenas Pastors for sermons?
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2014, 04:28:53 PM »
Reread my post, Tom.

I said without that violence that can be linked to the speach/sermon a subpoena would be iffy and even with the violence it would be too.

I compared it to music or movie that called for violence and even if it did result in violence any action would be doubtful.

My point exactly.
The precedent of taking no action has already been set.

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Re: Houston Mayor, subpoenas Pastors for sermons?
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2014, 04:32:13 PM »
My point exactly.
The precedent of taking no action has already been set.

Ok...then I'm not sure why you posted  "That doesn't hold up Solus."  if you agreed.
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