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Overheard at the range
« on: December 06, 2014, 09:05:19 AM »
I'm thinking this thread might be a place we collect all those crazy arm-chair-tactical things we've heard at the range.     

In the lane next to me was a young lady getting her first shooting lesson by an "instructor", maybe a friend, but definitely not a close one by the conversation.  I've never seen him at the range before and I know he's not one of the stores employees. Possibly a LEO she approached about getting a gun for SD. Going through the basics; safety, loading, unloading, aiming, stance, grip.  They were using what appeared to be a G17.  Everything was sounding okay, until he said:

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"Never, ever dry fire a gun.  It will damage the gun"

I took a short break and listened to see if there was some context.   I can see with a newbie, how you might, at first, discourage dry firing as a way to minimize ND.   Especially with a casual shooter who probably won't fire more than a 100 rounds a year, if even that.  But I think he seriously believe what he said.   Oh well, if she does pursue shooting and practicing seriously, she'll discover the benefit of dry firing down the road. 


 

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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2014, 09:09:02 AM »
Never ever dry fire a rimfire as it will damage the gun.
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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2014, 09:34:24 AM »
Not what the instructor said, nor what they were shooting.
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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2014, 09:45:40 AM »
I realize that but it's always a good idea to throw out the reminder that very few rules are absolute.
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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2014, 10:47:31 AM »
I dry fire everything except rimfire and those that recommend using snap caps.
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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2014, 12:29:41 PM »
Quote from: Timothy on December 06, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
I dry fire everything except rimfire and those that recommend using snap caps.

Empty case will serve the same purpose and can be used in rimfires since you just do not want the steel firing pin striking on the edge of the chamber and peening metal into the chamber mouth.


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It actually looks pretty cool though     ;D )
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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2014, 01:01:52 PM »
following the advice given to never dry fire any gun will make it impossible to field strip that glock they're shooting... :o ::) ::)  ??? ???
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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2014, 01:18:42 PM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on December 06, 2014, 12:29:41 PM
Empty case will serve the same purpose and can be used in rimfires since you just do not want the steel firing pin striking on the edge of the chamber and peening metal into the chamber mouth.


(Yes, I DID run out of buttons to click  ;D
It actually looks pretty cool though     ;D )

If you want to avoid damage on a rimfire I think you're supposed to rotate the case so it strikes a different spot every time. Maybe not.
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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2014, 01:26:09 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on December 06, 2014, 01:18:42 PM
If you want to avoid damage on a rimfire I think you're supposed to rotate the case so it strikes a different spot every time. Maybe not.

I don't know that you HAVE TO. Just so long as the firing pin isn't hitting steel.
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Re: Overheard at the range
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2014, 04:21:30 PM »
My Savage 1903 rifle is beat to shite from too may hits from the firing pin.

My Pop, a tool & die maker for forty years and weekend gunsmith, hand made the firing pin and a few other of the action parts over fifty years ago.  Me thinks he missed the mark on a few parts since the breech face and chamber have been beaten to death over the years from a misaligned firing pin.  I can't shoot anything but shorts in it now.  Too much pressure with long or long rifle and the case expands and the extractor can't remove the case from the chamber.

I don't shoot it anymore.  It just gets cleaned and lubed yearly now...
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