Author Topic: ATF reclassifies SigBrace... you might want to read this if you have a Sig Brace  (Read 10835 times)


alfsauve

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They didn't reclassified the SigBrace, carte blanche.  They're trying to come up with a way that says, if you use it for a arm brace then it's an arm brace, but if you use it as a shoulder stock, then it's a shoulder stock.

The controversy is can users, by virtue of how they use an item, constitute "redeisgn" or "remanufacture?"

I don't really think it's necessary.     I found, for my bug-out gun, it was UNnecessary weight and volume.  I can "shoulder" or "cheek" my pistol just fine with just the buffer tube.    Yeah you can put one on your pistol and pretend like you're getting away with a SBR without filing for NFA.


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This whole thing is going to turn into a legal clusterf*#k.

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This whole thing is going to turn into a legal clusterf*#k.

That was my guess the first time I saw a SIG brace.
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So my thoughts that the brace was unnecessary are echoed by Gabe Suarez. 

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So if my buffer tube touches my shoulder, on go the cuffs?  ::)

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So if my buffer tube touches my shoulder, on go the cuffs?  ::)

As I understand the release from BATF and how it has been digested by many, yes!

Actually, I believe your buffer tube, which could be shouldered, makes it a short barreled rifle.
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So if my buffer tube touches my shoulder, on go the cuffs?  ::)

Touching the buffer tube to your shoulder means you magically re-manufactured the buffer tube into a shoulder stock.

Doesn't that make perfect sense?   If you're a bureaucrat, of course it does.
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Who was it that predicted this would go to court ?

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BREAKING: SIG Responds to ATF Brace Ruling, Will Take Action

The following is a press release as it came from SIG.

    NEWINGTON, N.H. (January 21, 2015)—SIG SAUER, Inc., has issued the following statement about the recent opinion by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in regard to the SB15 and SBX pistol stabilizing braces.

    “As reaffirmed in an Open Letter by ATF’s Firearms and Ammunition Technology Division dated January 16, 2015, the Pistol Stabilizing Brace (SB15 and SBX) is legal to own, legal to purchase, and legal to install on a pistol. SIG SAUER® believes that the PSB improves the single-handed shooting performance of buffer tube equipped pistols, and offers the product both as an accessory and pre-installed on a number of pistols.

    “The Open Letter goes further to rescind a previous private letter regarding the ‘intent’ of the user of the pistol stabilizing brace. In the letter of January 16, 2015, ATF opines that a person’s actual use of the product as a shoulder stock can change the legal classification of the product. However, the Open Letter explicitly states: “ATF hereby confirms that if used as designed—to assist shooters in stabilizing a handgun while shooting with a single hand—the device is not considered a shoulder stock and therefore may be attached to a handgun without making a NFA firearm.”

    “We question ATF’s reversal in position that the classification of the brace may be altered by its use. We are reviewing the legal precedents and justification for this position, and will address our concerns with ATF in the near future.

    “We will vigorously defend the classification of all of our products and our consumers’ right to use them in accordance with the law. If we find that the open letter opinion is outside the scope of the law, we will seek further review.”

If you aren’t yet aware the ATF issued a public letter on Friday declaring that shouldering a pistol equipped with a SIG Brace “redesigned” the firearm into a short barreled rifle.

It looks like SIG might be going to court with the ATF yet again.

   

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Profitability must by high with this thing. Going to court against a government agency isn't cheap. Then again neither is that brace. $130.00+ for a plastic molded product.

 

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