The Republican Debate ?

[billt]

For anyone who missed the debate and wants to see it, Fox Business Channel is replaying it tonight. You only need to watch the first 5 minutes to get what we're talking about.

[Timothy]

Are any of you actually considering voting for this egomaniacal narcissist?  I realize he IS saying what everyone wants and needs to hear but the question of a third party run needed to be asked and answered...he failed to provide the correct answer.

He's done for me!  Never even got out of the gate, really!  He's a circus side show..

[tombogan03884]

I prefer Walker, Jindal, Or Cruz. But if Trump gets the nomination I'll vote for him.
If it's Bush or Christie I'll vote Democrat.
If Trump goes 3rd party the Dems will win.

[billt]

Are any of you actually considering voting for this egomaniacal narcissist?  I realize he IS saying what everyone wants and needs to hear but the question of a third party run needed to be asked and answered...he failed to provide the correct answer.

He's done for me!  Never even got out of the gate, really!  He's a circus side show..

What you have now is a circus side show. If there ever was a pig, political whore with lipstick, it's Obama. I can't believe the same people who put up with Obama's antics without criticism, are the same ones who diss on Trump. Trump is a billionaire businessman with an ego, who doesn't give a damn what he says, when he says it, where he say's it, or who he say's it to. And he doesn't care who's watching or listening. Everyone thinks he's getting himself in trouble except him. How much "trouble" can he be in when he's leading by double digits? And the reason he's leading is because of what and who he is. Why should he change? No one knows what will happen 9 months down the road. The political "experts" wrote him off after he dissed McCain. He's now leading by an even greater percentage.

Can anyone show me a billionaire business man worth a damn who doesn't have an ego? Unless they're too old and boring to care, (Warren Buffet). Trump could care less about acting and sounding "Presidential". This has always been what Obama thrives on. He's nothing but an empty head who needs to be plugged into a Teleprompter to even speak. When he tries to do it without one, it takes him 15 minutes to put a sentence together. And when he's finished, it made no sense.

We're a capitalist nation. Trump is the ultimate capitalist. Brash, a big ego, bites back hard at anyone who he thinks is against him. Most of us would do much the same. He's not a groomed, professional politician. If you scoured the Earth, you couldn't find another candidate more polar opposite of Obama than Trump. THAT is why people like him. Also the fact the Republican establishment and the media HATES him. And the only reason they hate him is the fact they can't control him.

At this point the Republican establishment would rather throw the election, rather than give Trump the nomination. Because if they did, and he won, it would be the end of the Republican Party as we know it. And that would satisfy most Republican voters to no end.

The very fact the Republican Party cannot control him. And the media hates him, should tell you everything you need to know. That alone is enough for me to vote for him. Whatever happens after that has to be better than the communist idiot we've got now.

People are not supporting Trump because they think he's that wonderful. They're supporting him because of the hatred they've built inside for both Obama, as well as establishment Republicans. That isn't going away anytime soon, believe me. And remember, the Democratic Party is no longer. They are all hard core Saul Alinsky communists.

[tombogan03884]

Tell 'em Bill.

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[billt]

I've changed my position on Trump. If he is leading at Republican Convention time, and they give it to someone else. I hope and pray he runs third party and train wrecks the election. And I hope he keeps coming back to train wreck it every 4 years. And keeps doing it until the Republican Party totally evaporates. The country is finished if he doesn't win. So you tell me, what the hell is the difference?

The current Republican Party is much like a sick, suffering, old dog. It needs to be put out of it's misery. Not left to go on languishing , and being painful to even look at, because it can no longer function. It just lay's there, pi$$ing on itself...... And the odor is building.

[Timothy]

All valid points, Bill but it still doesn't change much. 

I don't think he can get elected.  Might be another election where I vote for my dog....  Lord knows my vote in the presidential election means absolutely nothing where I live.

Hillary or Bernie will take the Northeast, without a doubt...

[billt]

You have to remember, Trump is gaining ground as fast as Hillary is losing it. And nothing is hurting him in the process. Sanders is a genuine threat. He was laughed at just like Trump was at first. The communist Democrats are as sick of Clinton, as the Republicans are of Bush. Americans will no longer vote for outdated retreads. Even Romney was smart enough to figure that out.

And I think Warren, (a pure communist if there ever was one), will get in once she see's for certain Hillary is sunk. It seems the more these candidates say they won't run, the greater chance there is they will.

Obama, and establishment Republicans have fueled a hatred in this country never before seen. At least not in my lifetime. Political hate is a powerful thing. Trump is merely the surfer riding that wave of hate. And he's got a damn good chance of riding it all the way into shore. And the more the Republican establishment tries to hurt him, the higher his star will rise.

[Timothy]

Yea, I forgot about Lizzie "Borden-Pocahontas" Warren..

She's a real hack...but she really only has one line to run on.."The middle class is just getting hammered!"

Applause, applause, applause...

[Solus]

I prefer Walker, Jindal, Or Cruz. But if Trump gets the nomination I'll vote for him.
If it's Bush or Christie I'll vote Democrat.
If Trump goes 3rd party the Dems will win.

Pretty much my preference for candidates, but if you decide not to vote Republican, don't vote Democrat.

Pick a third party.  Libertarians are probably the most established...but still haven't won federal positions, but there is also the Modern Whigs party...and others.

Libertarians do manage to get ballot access in all 50 states..but that doesn't help get them to the debates.

The problem 3rd party's have is that ballot access is very much rigged against them by the two major parties.  Access goes by the number of votes the party earned in a recent election.  Without enough votes, the major portion of a 3rd party's funds go to canvasing for signatures to get on state ballots for presidential races. 

Then, because the same bias applies to getting into any debate, they have very limited funds to get their message to the voters.

So at least put your vote someplace where it might help "strike a blow" to the two sides of the "Establishment" party.

DISCLAIMER:  I saw what Billt is saying as true back in 1991.  I've been a "card carrying" Libertarian since 7/1/91