The Republican Debate ?

[Timothy]

Take away Trump, Fiorina, and Carson's points, and you've got jack $h!t left.

Now you're making sense and that sense is that whomever is the next president doesn't really matter!

Remember, the entire house and 1/3 of the senate are up for grabs...  the president doesn't matter anymore unless it's a lefty and then the Supreme Court is toast..

Then you're fucked...  Tom will then get his wish to start killing people..

[billt]

Now you're making sense and that sense is that whomever is the next president doesn't really matter!

Remember, the entire house and 1/3 of the senate are up for grabs...  the president doesn't matter anymore unless it's a lefty and then the Supreme Court is toast..

Then you're fucked...  Tom will then get his wish to start killing people..

Hasn't it struck you that it doesn't matter about the Houses anymore either? And THAT is what has people so damn pissed off, and in Trump's corner? When Obama took over, he had both the House and the Senate. Now the Republicans do. What's changed? What will change? Nothing. As for the Supreme Court, they've ruled for the communists in the last 2 big decisions. Broken is broke.

The border still leaks like a screen door on a submarine. The health care system is still a disastrous joke. The dumb ass Republicans don't have a clue how to fix it because they can't. You'll never have tort reform which would fix it, because both Houses are packed full of scum sucking lawyers.

Trump may or may not have all the solutions. That remains to be seen. But we KNOW for a fact another politician, be it a communist, or a Republican good ol' boy, is only going to make things even worse. If that's even possible. And people have been killed over a lot less.

[Timothy]

Good point...

[tombogan03884]

Hey Tim, your the one reading and posting in a political thread.
If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.
The fact that you don't know where candidates stand on various issues isn't my fault.
Your attitude is a perfect example of why the countries so screwed up.
Your to lazy to inform yourself so I'm  an asshole.
:well, I'm racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, Francophobic, claustrophobic, and rude. Bite me.

[billt]

Have either of you noticed that basically the participation on this forum is limited to about a dozen people lately?  People must think that unless they toe the "DRTV" line that they're no longer welcome to speak.  Personally, I play here less and less often because what lured me here 7-8 years ago is no longer part of the discussion.

All forums go through this. People come and go. They get bored and move on. It's not the forum has changed, or the people in it. I think Internet forums in general are seeing a downturn. Most people don't have the time, or else something happens in their lives that require more attention.

Also, people who used to participate in many forums of the same type and topic, have limited it to a few. You can put me into that category. What I love about this place is the way M.B. limits the moderation to little, if any. So many forums are drunk with moderation, people get fed up and leave, or else get banned. Because they are so afraid they'll be reprimanded like children. Nothing turns off someone faster than that. Both Glock Talk and ARFCOM were, and still are famous for this. Say whatever is on your mind Tim. You just can't expect everyone to love you for it. But whatever it may be, you won't get "banned" for it here, like you will at so many other sites.

[Sponsor]

[JC5123]

As for the border, build the wall that has been approved for what; 10 years now? Start enforcing the law and deporting illegals. Get rid of the B.S. "anchor baby" crap. After you build the wall, start to build military bases all along our side of it. And start using our military to protect the homeland. Build it up like the DMZ between N and S. Korea. Inform Mexico that ANYONE attempting to cross outside of a designated crossing will be shot on sight. No questions asked. And their corpse left to rot as a warning to the next fool.

Establish a strategy for the military to WIN this global war on terror. (My plan would be to seek out and kill anyone with ties to ANY terrorist organization). Then get the hell out of the way and let the military handle it. They know what they are doing. If this includes regimes like Iran, so be it. It should have been made clear from the beginning that this was a WORLD WAR. Guess what? The map may be different when we are done.

As for our domestic problems, GET THE FEDS HANDS OUT OF EVERYTHING. Shut down the EPA, ATF, IRS. Kick the U.N. out of the U.S. and stop funding them. Stop foreign aid and use that money to pay down the debt. Stop regulating the economy to death. Stop all subsidies. No more corporate welfare, and no more progressive tax rates. Everyone pays the same rate. And if the government can't make it on that, then downsize. Begin to scale back welfare. Return charity to the churches.

I could go on. But you get the gist. Domestic Policy: Screw You, do it self!
                                                        Foreign Policy: Screw all of you do it self, and if you are involved in the killing of Americans, prepare to die, and rot in hell.

I am JC5123 and I'm running for benevolent dictator. 

[Rastus]

The professional politicians and the machine behind them appear to have absolutely no idea how much the public disdains them.  Either that or they think it will blow over or otherwise go away and not be a negative factor.  All of the years of Congressional approvals being rated in the gutter and they do not think it is "them" but the other guy.

I listened to one of George W's guys on the TV the other night and he was oblivious to the new way of the world of politics that has emerged creating the Trump dynamic.  He went on the offensive about Trump saying blah, blah, blah...and finally centered around policy statements and how important they are.  Important?  Really. 

The issuance of meaningless policy statements from professional politicians is the dividing line between being fit for an office and being just another loser rabble rouser?

What few politicians "stick with" their policy statements.....and since this guy was a political industry insider he really thinks that is important whereas someone like myself is thinking about how pathetic and silly his "...important policy statement..." attack was.  Policy...?  Really?  That's important when everyone on the outside knows the politicians lie like a pimp caught with a whore and a bag of dope?

Obviously the Republican political insiders do not know the ire and anger they have generated by going back on their conservative "policy" promises at every opportunity.  And libs feel the same way about their guys.

With friends like Boehner, McConnell, Graham, etc. who needs enemies?  Political parties should consider why nations believe enemy soldiers are to be treated humanely whereas the penalty for a traitor is generally death.  People disdain enormously their own, the one's they put their trust on, turning on them and rending their trust. 


Ken

PS  Experience is government is another HA HA HA in my book.  The best president we've had in the last 50 years was an actor.  For inspiration and a contrast showing how far we have fallen click on the link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt8y18YFH70

Let's just give up says our politicians why not...another link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk

Our surrender....it is voluntary.  Must we roll over and surrender to obtain the peace of liberal approval?  We owe those who sacrificed more than that.

Who is our enemy?

Watch those links above guys.....

[billt]

The big loser in last weeks debate was FOX. The fallout from this still hasn't settled. This was the biggest thing Trump needed, and it was the last thing Fox did. They still refuse to accept Trump as a viable candidate. The stupidity and stubbornness they are all displaying is unbelievable. That whole debate was a set up to hit Trump, and make the other machine politicians look better and more viable.

The whole thing backfired to the point Megan Kelly, Fox's shining star, has been getting death threats, and was put on sabbatical. "Vacation" my ass. Fox News chief Roger Ailes begged and pleaded with Trump, who confessed to Sean Hannity in a weekend phone call, "He would never do Fox again", to come to a truce. Trump finally agreed, but only after Fox had been decimated. I don't thing the damage is over yet from all of this.

Fiorina made a huge mistake in siding with Kelly over Trump. That WILL come back to haunt her. And they STILL haven't learned their lessons. These political reporters are looking more and more stupid each and every time they speak. Trump has the people behind him. The whole debate disaster Fox engineered backfired. And Trump has come out of it as white as new fallen snow. With an even bigger following. The only way they can possibly stop him is to kill him. And that scares me. The Republican machine has never been put in this kind of position by anything or anyone. Ross Perot was a fart in a wind storm compared to this guy.

 

[Solus]

Have not verified if all the quotes of Trump are true, but Ann Barnhardt seems to think so.

http://www.barnhardt.biz/

1) “I probably identify more as Democrat.”

2) “I’ve been around for a long time. And it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”

3) “Nancy — you’re the best. Congrats. [signature]”
—Handwritten note to Speaker Nancy Pelosi

4) “Bush is probably the worst president in the history of the United States.”

5) “I’m totally pro-choice.”

6) “I want to see the abortion issue removed from politics. I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors.”

7) “I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care.”

“The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans… We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan.”

9) “By imposing a one-time 14.25 percent net-worth tax on the richest individuals and trusts, we can put America on sound financial footing for the next century.”

10) “I think he [Obama] has a chance to go down as a great president.”

[Rastus]

Yeah, I'm not a Trumpster but I do prefer him over Jeb, Kasich, Christie and Rubio.  And he's my preference over Sanders and Clinton too.  I remember his Dem ways....but the best president we have had in the last 50 years was a reformed Democrat...maybe he's in the process I dunno...he's not my first choice but he is my clear preference over the names above.

Again, this mess needs to be fixed from the bottom up, not the top down.  Be careful who you vote for in local and state elections.  Fixing the bottom will fix the top....if it can be done.

Check out those links I posted a couple of posts back.....