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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 12:41:05 PM »
We tend to stiffen up as we age....tendons, muscles, joints........You would probably benefit as much or more from a good stretching regimen.
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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2015, 02:51:57 PM »
When I lay on my side in bed, and arch my back up and down from my neck to my hips, like a swimmer going through water. I can hear all of my vertebra cracking. It doesn't hurt. Probably just calcium deposits and stuff. But it never did that 20 years ago. Miserable old age.

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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2015, 04:25:13 PM »
my advice is find the gym where all the pretty young things go( both single and the milfs)  find one with a great but in spandex, get on the machine behind her.  you will be amazed at how far you go.

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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2015, 08:34:53 AM »
Bill, I'm getting to this late, but I don't see some of my points mentioned so I will endeavor to offer some explanations for your observations.

Even at our advanced age, the human body is a fairly adaptive mechanism.  Soon after you start an exercise regimen, your body realizes that this is the new norm and adapts to it.  You get an initial improvement in muscular strength and in the body's ability to use oxygen more efficiently, but the body doesn't adapt more than it needs to in order to accommodate this new level of effort.

But, what this also means is if you use the same exertion for the same period of time to reach a certain level of exhaustion, you will continue to reach that same level of exhaustion after each similar period of exertion.  Your body won't adapt more than is necessary.

This means, if you want to achieve increasingly greater strength, endurance, and cardio-vascular health, you need to regularly increase the effort-level/effort-time of your exercise periods.  If you have been walking along at 3.5 MPH on a zero incline for 30 minutes, increase to 3.8 MPH on qa 2 incline for 45 minutes.  And when you can do that without needing a nap afterward, increase it again.

Of course all this comes with certain purely physical and undeniable limitations--at our age, more limitations than we would care to admit.  Arthritic joints, stressed tendons, arterial blockages and all the other ravages of time tend to adversely impact our abilities to physically improve--as does the simple fact that recovery takes longer than it did when we were younger.

As a young man, I used to hit the gym for a couple of hours 5 or 6 days a week.  That is no longer possible.   Bad knees, prosthetic hips, and a shoulder that needs replacing (surgery scheduled for Oct. 13) have all contributed to a reduction in gym time.  Still, I hit the elliptical three days a week for a 45-minute workout.  That allows me to remain in a state of physical fitness that is in concert with my overall activity level.  I am no longer the buff beach bod I once was, but I don't have to turn out the lights when I take a shower.

To put it in perspective, Bunny used to say, "Honey, you look like my Greek god."  Now she says, "My god, honey, you look like a Greek."

Age happens.  But, lest you think limitations are only visited on the old, there is a story about a young farm boy who decided he wanted to be the strongest man on earth.  To reach this lofty goal, he found a newborn calf and lifted it every day.  As the calf grew, he reasoned, his strength would also grow.  One day, he thought, I will be able to lift a grown cow and no one else can do that.

Well, if you have ever spent any time on a farm, you know that a calf grows faster than a healthy farm boy's ability to increase muscle strength, and a grown cow is too heavy for even the strongest man to lift no matter his preparation.

So, with all this as preamble, continue on with your exercise program.  It's doing you good even if you can't see immediate results.  Add in a bit more challenge every so often, but don't go nuts over it.  Think of it sort of like the guy who quits smoking.  The physical repair of his body is so slow, he may not realize that he's feeling better each day.  Until, one day, he finds he can walk up a hill without wheezing.

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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2015, 01:40:46 PM »
Let's turn this into a gun related issue:

I found over a decade ago that my shooting, both action and precision, benefited from cardio health.  Recently I am noticing the affects of age on joints and strength.  My hands constantly feel like I have worked them hard, and my fine motor skills deteriorate quickly.  I also find the constant increase in lack of flexibility.

Michael and Marshal, are you listening?  How about some shows or segments on the physical needs of shooters - young, old, and aging?
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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2015, 08:59:27 AM »
The biggest problem I see all the time with these long duration cardiovascular workouts prescribed by these doctors, is people simply won't follow them. A half hour high energy workout, followed by a long "cool down", then weights and all the rest. Then you're allowed 2 pieces of Celery and a piece of dry burnt toast. So many guys I know just gave up not long after starting.

No one will do that. Most don't have the time or the discipline. They'll try it, then after a few days they'll just say F' it, and quit. Some exercise is better than no exercise. So for now at least, I'm not setting my goals too high. I know if I do I won't stick with it. I'll increase it SLOWLY, rather then bite off too much at once and quit out of discouragement.

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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2015, 10:02:39 AM »
Make yourselves useful. upper and lower body work outs.
Get both and alternate for balanced good health
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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2015, 10:07:57 AM »
The biggest problem I see all the time with these long duration cardiovascular workouts prescribed by these doctors, is people simply won't follow them. A half hour high energy workout, followed by a long "cool down", then weights and all the rest. Then you're allowed 2 pieces of Celery and a piece of dry burnt toast. So many guys I know just gave up not long after starting.

No one will do that. Most don't have the time or the discipline. They'll try it, then after a few days they'll just say F' it, and quit. Some exercise is better than no exercise. So for now at least, I'm not setting my goals too high. I know if I do I won't stick with it. I'll increase it SLOWLY, rather then bite off too much at once and quit out of discouragement.

Exercise for the sake of exercise is mind-numbingly boring.  Standing on a treadmill for a prescribed amount of time would fall into that category.  If you don't have any specific purpose to exercise, just get outside and go for a brisk walk.  Make it part of your daily routine and it'll have the same benefit as slaving away on a treadmill but it will be something you enjoy (maybe).  At least the scenery changes when you walk outside.

Personally, I could never exercise for the sake of exercising.  That's why I play rugby and do strongman competitions.  Everything I do in my training has a very specific purpose and progression.  I'm constantly striving to get stronger, faster, and more explosive.  I'll be 40 before the year's out, and as I get older, the hits hurt a little more, recovery takes longer, and progress happens less frequently, but I'm still competitive.

There's an old saying that goes, "I didn't quit playing rugby because I got old.  I got old because I quit playing rugby."  My biggest fear in retiring from sports is that I'll realize the truth in this saying.
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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2015, 10:59:13 PM »
if this is not reasons enough to go to the gym....


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Re: Cardiovascular Exercise ???
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2015, 07:31:39 PM »
Bill, can I ask (probably a silly) question, please?
On the treadmill, are you holding on to the handle bars, or otherwise resting your arms/hands on the front of the thing? I got the third best results in the history of those things at Ft. Riley at the time. I'm not in that kind of shape, and never have been. When I'm holding onto the handles, I can go on forever on the thing without feeling it.
Don't know if that helps, but that was the observation I made at the time..
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